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Vortex Scope Purchase - Help me choose

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by 2A2Dend, May 27, 2016.

  1. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    Hi everyone. I need some of your suggestive guidance if you will. I'm currently looking at rifle scopes made by Vortex Optics. I considered several other manufacturers, up until I heard of the former Armed Forces incentive program. So here I am wanting to choose the right "first" one. My range distance will be from 0-400yds.

    Currently, I'm leaning towards the 1-4x24 PST in favor of the reticule.

    I'm looking at one of these models.
    Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24
    Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24



     
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  2. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Another option that I like is Leupold's VX-R 2-7x33mm. Nice size and weight. Lighter than even the PST 1-4x

    I got mine from B&H Photo for only $490 So it is in the same price range as the PST, but gives you greater magnification You have to add the scope to the cart in order to see the sale price. Although it is marked special order, they only took 3 days to ship mine.

    The Leupold also has 1/4 MOA adjustments, compared to 1/2 MOA on the two Vortex scopes. Far easier to turn on and adjust the light level of the reticle too. Plus I don't like those exposed target turrets on the Vortex scopes. I've had varmint hunting scopes where I have accidentally knocked the knobs, and got the scope off zero. I don't like that possibly happening in a scope on a fighting rifle.

    Here is the B&H web page:

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1037967-REG/leupold_111233_vx_r_2_7x33_firedot_ballistic.html

    And Leupold's product info page:

    https://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/vx-r-riflescopes/vx-r-2-7x33mm/

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  3. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I'd take the reticle over the magnification.
     
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  4. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    I did just that.
    The Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24 TMCQ MOA is ordered.
     
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  5. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Probably more scope than you are looking for:

    Viper HS-T 4-16x44
    30MOA worth of adjustment on the reticle
    Adjustments on turrets with zero stop

    I put one on my Remington 700 SPS .308

    Reticle here:
    https://instagram.com/p/95K949oSQg/

    Edit:
    There was a lot that went into selecting this scope. Price was one factor and a sub $600 scope was my preference. I tried some lower value scopes by Vortex and their crosshairs were too large at 200y. The VMR-1 reticle hit the sweet spot with the precision to shoot .6MOA groups at 200y. The other lower prices ones covered almost 1MOA and at 800y that's a huge portion of a target missing. Then they have the Viper HS that's close to identical but the reticle has 15MOA bottom and half on windage but no external turrets and no zero stop (iirc).

    Turned out about $100 more to get the HS-T ended up more than worth it if I was going to buy one scope for the life of this rifle.
     
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  6. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    I've been eyeing other Vortex scopes. I think the one you mention may have been on my possibles list. For one of my bolt guns.
     
  7. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    I was about to chime in and say PST, but for the glass instead of the reticle. Good choice though.
     
  8. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    The 1-4 PST will fit my current need for the time being. Now I'm trying to resist picking up a 20MOA QD mount. They're all so damn expensive. I know, buy once, cry once. I'm about too!!
    I been spending the morning on the internet looking at all my options. I don't necessarily need top of the line. Larue, Bobro, < upper end. For the price, American Defense (so far) has my attention. I was hoping for a Memorial Day sale.
     
  9. x2ndxall

    x2ndxall WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Maybe I missed something but how do you guys give recommendations on optics without knowing usage?

    Goes for mounts also, but how about the Burris PEPR? It's quick detach, 20 MOA and reasonably priced.
     
  10. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    I was aware of the usage based on the two optics I questioned, so there was no need to ask, really. The mount I'm seeking is cantilever (20 MOA)with QD to offset the mount position forward for the added BU sight underneath.

    I have a Colt cantilever offset mount now. My cons with that is there is only one screw per ring-side (four total) and it's not QD. I'm looking into my options.
     
  11. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    The Burris PEPR is okay for the money, I have two. That being said the OP asked between the two scopes, and glass>magnification.
     
  12. x2ndxall

    x2ndxall WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    You look at the PEPR? The stuff I have to pay for gets that mount.
     
  13. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    @x2ndxall
    I did. The picatinny on the rings is not to my liking.
     
  14. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    They come with an extra set of tops without the rails.
     
  15. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Well, he mentioned that he wanted something for 0 to 400 yards. Plus he listed two scopes that he was interested in.

    So I sort of assumed that this was for an AR type rifle, and probably for self defense usage. Now if he was planning to do something else with the rifle, like go squirrel hunting for example, then yes, one would recommend a much different optic. But I am pretty confident that is not what he plans to use the rifle for.
     
  16. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I replaced my original mounts with Aero Precision Ultralight mounts on both of my AR rifles. Really well made, quality mounts. They are so very strong and lightweight.
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  17. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    That's a plus.

    After checking all the usual places for used, nothing was found.
    I took two stiff straight shots of whiskey, and placed my order for a Larue LT-104 SPR.

    Impatiently waiting for delivery!! :rolleyes:
     
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  18. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    @Lance Jacobs
    I was about to reply and see you deleted your post.
    The Aero Precision mounts are nice. I've often wondered why they don't make a QR type.
     
  19. x2ndxall

    x2ndxall WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Well dang, if I'd known Larue was still on the table..;)
     
  20. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    Fine cuisine is always on the menu. It just depends how many there are in the party, and who's buying!! I try not to splurge too often, especially now that there are two shooters to buy for. First the essentials. The good stuff always makes it's way, eventually.