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As long as you can elucidate your, 'justifiable fearfulness' - then - yes.I guess if he can do it so can we?
I think it is BS. Claiming "the guy might have hurt me because I've been hurt before" is also BS.
Consider that when Wheeler told the guy to "go away," he doesn't own the public space and he has no right to force someone in public space to go anywhere or direct their movements in anyway whatsoever.
I consider if I were in a similar situation and I sprayed someone who had yet to actually start any physical altercation and also had not yet shown any aggression other than video taping me and asking me questions, pretty sure I would be found guilty of some type of assault.
If we can spray people who are within 6ft of us out of concerns of covid, what a terrible precedent to set.
Seems to be a clear case of "mayor privilege."
Jury trial.
.was brought upon himself.
I don't think the likes of the mayor, city council, and many potland residents see it that way. It's really hard for me, being what I believe to be a logically minded person, to understand that mind set. Nothing is "Their" fault ,always the fault of someone else.
Pepper spray is a tool. Keys in a fist are a tool. Departing, retreating is a tool. I add tools to my package as needed, as available.Are you referring to the pepper spray or the tool?
A lot of this.....I'd probably believe/conclude maybe......was brought upon himself. The suspect/person (or maybe, just a concerned citizen) was addressing or trying to address "his" elected Mayor. The Mayor didn't like it. So............
Excuse incoming.......
You're within my 6' safe distance.
Covid, blah, blah, blah...
Have some pepper spray (you deplorable).
Really.......even the police are thought to have a higher tolerance level when it come to confrontations. Humm.......don't like it? Don't take the job.
Remember early on with AIDS?
I once asked.......if deadly force was authorized......when someone with aids would invade my "private space" and was declaring that he/she intended to give me AIDS w/ additional spitting behavior, etc.....
YES.....what we knew then......was very limited. And so were the treatments available if you got it.
Though dying......just because you chose a job to take those people away? Yeah, don't like it.....don't join or resign now. You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.
Aloha, Mark
Departing, retreating is a tool.
Depends.
Were there bad optics in your actions, probably not a good idea to allow it to be presented to fellow citizens. Who is likely to be in the jury pool in your case? Gotta consider their ideology and political leanings... IMO cases are not decided on bare facts as they should be.
Having a judge, same risk. One would expect judges to be fair and impartial, but that is rare today. Nowadays judges advocate from the bench, and heap extra punishment on those they don't like or that they disagree with.
I was inferring that Tod Whalen is a tool.Pepper spray is a tool. Keys in a fist are a tool. Departing, retreating is a tool. I add tools to my package as needed, as available.
They are all a form of deterrence.
When the going gets tough, the puzzies resign.
Reportedly, this moron was aggressively confronting him. I'm not ok with that no matter who it is. Fricken behave like a gentleman or GTFO or get sprayed. Too damn bad.
Does Wheelies deserve what HE gets? Yes! But I wouldn't do it because it's overly rude, bordering on assault/intimidation and I'm not THAT much an azzhole.
As for JUDGES....."sentencing guidelines" has taken much of what you claim out of the picture.
Speaking of tools,