Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Use 270win dies for "06??

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by padd54, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. padd54

    padd54 Central Oregon/Cascades Active Member

    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    29
    I am getting two Garands from CMP in the next couple months.
    I currently have Redding S-type dies for the .270win. Can I use these with the appropriate bushings for the "06?

    If not, do any of you have some "06 dies you no longer need? biggrin.gif

    Thanks,
    Ray
     
  2. chainsaw

    chainsaw East side of Or. Active Member

    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    113
    maybe the die instructions will have some info?
     
  3. Blov

    Blov Oregon Central Coast Member

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm thinking no since the 270 is necked down from the 06.
     
  4. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,258
    Likes Received:
    3,064
    .270 dies are made to reload the .270 Winchester only! The expander ball only opens the neck up to accommodate .270 caliber bullets. Also the shoulder angle on the .270 is probably different from the '06. But none of this matters - the answer is no. There are very few dual - purpose dies and they are only for calibers where both can be used in one gun IE .38 Special/357 Mag and .44 Special/.44 Magnum.
     
  5. Shooter98

    Shooter98 McMinnville, Or. Member

    Messages:
    316
    Likes Received:
    18
    If you're talking about using a full length or neck sizing die from a 270 for an 06' then no. A bullet seating die, maybe as long as it isn't a die that tries to set a crimp as it seats.

    I'd say just spend $38 at Bi-Mart and get some RCBS FL dies.
     
  6. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    5,774
    Likes Received:
    4,958
    ABSOLUTELY NOT NO WAY.

    The neck opening on a .30-06 is about .306" after resizing it to seat a .308" diameter bullet

    The neck opening on a .270 is about .275" after resizing it to seat a .277" diameter bullet.

    No possible way to resize the neck on a 30-06 case with a .270 die and be able to seat a bullet into the neck.


    The .270 is also a longer case with the shoulder set closer to the mouth then a .30-06 no way.
     
  7. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,407
    Likes Received:
    537
    If price is your concern get LEE dies. Their dies are less expensive and are every bit as good as all the other more expensive dies. I've used Redding, RCBS, and Lee for over 30 years and some of the most accurate ammo I have produced for 30-06 and .308 has been processed using LEE dies. Their die sets also come with a shell holder. Some other sets require that you buy this separate, thus increasing their already high price. Midway USA has the Lee pacesetter die set for sale at $22.
     
  8. safooma

    safooma Oregon Member

    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    8
    Yep, I use Lee RGB dies to reload for my Garand and have had excellent results. So far I have reloaded several hundred and they have all shot very well.
     
  9. padd54

    padd54 Central Oregon/Cascades Active Member

    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    29
    Well, I got a couple bushings for my '06 and slaped one in my .270win. neck die, what do you know, it works!!!

    Now I can use the same neck die for my 25-05, 270 and 30-06!!
     
  10. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    5,774
    Likes Received:
    4,958
    What are you calling a "bushing" I been reloading since I was 11 None of my dies have bushings. They have a die body and the neck expander. If I can guess at what your doing is you have put a .308 expander in to a .270 Win die which will size the neck of a 30-06 case down to .270 outer diamensions and when you pull the expander out it will then stretch the neck back out to .306

    This is really over working the brass and will greatly shorten its life leading to case splints and damage to your chamber.

    Reloading is a serious process not one you should be Bubbleguming around with in some Bubba cheap *** sort of way.
     
  11. padd54

    padd54 Central Oregon/Cascades Active Member

    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    29
  12. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,407
    Likes Received:
    537
    Could have bought a set of dies for the price of one Sinclair bushing.

    Common sense??????
     
  13. padd54

    padd54 Central Oregon/Cascades Active Member

    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    29
    It is, when you are adjusting neck tension to be the same for all your cartridges, after turning the necks. I want to make the best ammunition I can, so I try to make each one the same as the other. I do a complete Bench Rest prep on all my cases, I even weigh the bullets and measure the bearing surfaces. I use a balance beam scale to get the powder as exact as possible, even for my Mini-14.
    I also accurize my rifles, so in the end the only variable is the idiot behind the trigger and mother nature.

    I understand not everyone wants to do this, but I don't put them down. I have a lot of time on my hand and being anal about my reloading helps pass the time.
     
  14. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    5,774
    Likes Received:
    4,958
  15. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

    Messages:
    2,802
    Likes Received:
    1,856
    Padd,

    I think you have a novel way of doing this, however, for a semi-auto rifle, you need to make sure you are full length or small base sizing otherwise you will have feeding/chambering issues. I think your approach may work, but probably not as well as you might hope. I don't know if you have a few live rounds available to you, if so take one, pull the bullet, measure OAL, and the body just below the shoulder resize, and compare results. you can also cover the case in sharpie and resize, which will give you an idea where the die is touching the case. I think the real proof here will be in chambering some dummies and maybe trying it out.
     
  16. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,407
    Likes Received:
    537
    Would also be interesting to look at the cases after they've been fired a time or two. Improper sizing can lead to a very short case life.
     
  17. padd54

    padd54 Central Oregon/Cascades Active Member

    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    29
    I have a Redding Body die also.