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UPS breaks the Law!!!

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Iansstud, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    I have 3-30rd ak mags getting shipped from Copes Dist via UPS...

    I looked at the tracking number and they are in Illinois on there way here.

    I just had to laugh a little that they were in Illinois:laugh::bluelaugh::bluelaugh::laugh:
     
  2. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    They were in transit...it doesn't matter.

    Still funny if a UPS guy was arrested though.
     
  3. dragonsden73

    dragonsden73 Salem, Oregun Active Member

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    I wonder if they have any convicted felons working for them....that could get ugly when transporting arms.
     
  4. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Last I checked you couldn't to transport hazardous materials (which is what they declare firearms as). You need a special CDL permit for that....just like the guys that drive the fuel trucks, parts for nuclear reators, explosives, ect. I highly doubt they are convicted felons...but you never know with the DOL.
     
  5. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    Agreed, The ATF is very specific about FFL's not letting felons play with, or handle guns.

    If there is felons working there, it might explain why some guns go missing in transit.
     
  6. soberups

    soberups Newberg Well-Known Member

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    No, we dont.
     
  7. soberups

    soberups Newberg Well-Known Member

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    You do not need a CDL to deliver most hazardous goods.

    I've been a UPS driver for 22 yrs. I dont have a CDL, and I have delivered firearms, black powder, ammo, and all sorts of fun stuff on a daily basis.

    Guns and ammo are not considered "hazardous" per the DOT, they do not require a shippers certification or a HAZMAT label. Black powder is considered hazardous, but is perfectly legal to ship with the proper paperwork and no CDL is required.

    As far as the "legality" of hi-cap mags transiting Illinois....we dont know what is in the box, nor are we responsible for the legality of its contents. Compliance with the laws is the responsibility of the shipper, not the carrier.
     
  8. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    I have had many guns, parts, ammunition, etc. get hung up in Illinois last year. I think it is very weird! In anticipation of new toys arriving I check tracking number everyday sometimes twice a day. I noticed last year a lot of things were getting hung up in IL for some unknown reason. Anyways it is one of a few states in America that I personally avoid because I disagree with their political agenda, so I don't even like my stuff going through there let alone getting hung up there. That has in the past really bothered me.
     
  9. phathom

    phathom Vancouver, WA Member

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    No they're not felons, just potheads, and that's mainly the people doing the loading and unloading, not so much the drivers. I used to have a friend who got fired along with a couple other guys for toking up at work and happened to get caught by corporate as they were walking through one day.
    I really dislike Illinois and Wisconsin for their political agenda and taking rights away from the people. I sure hope that no one from there gets in a higher office and starts wanting to enact "change" in the nation to make it like Illinois.
    Oh wait, it already has :paranoid:
     
  10. soberups

    soberups Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Illinois is the location of CACH (Chicago Area Consololidation Hub) where a significant portion of our daily ground volume is sorted and routed thru on its journey from the shipper to the receiver. Its location is due to its proximity to the rail yards; most outgoing ground volume reaches its final destination by train before being loaded onto the brown truck that I drive that delivers it to your door.
     
  11. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    Kool, thanks for explaining that. :thumbup:
     
  12. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Then why do I have to pay extra to ship a firearm than I would anything else through UPS? I was specifically told that it was haz-mat and I had to pay $70 in shipping for a gun that weighed less than a pound.
     
  13. Mr.510

    Mr.510 Belfair Washington Member

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    Don't quote me but I think you can only ship a handgun UPS Next Day Air and that's part of what makes it so expensive. I used to ship guns with UPS and the counter people always freaked out and ran for a supervisor. I stopped using UPS for guns when they lost my first Saiga .308. It took me seven months to find another and cost me an extra $100 as Obama was on the ticket by that point. :angry:

    I now use FedEx. I walk in with a handgun case and it's just business as usual and substantially cheaper than UPS. :)
     
  14. crosse

    crosse Bellevue Active Member

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    really that much cheaper to use fedex next day???
     
  15. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    if your a FFL dealer, you can drop the pistol into a Flat rate box and its only 4.99!!!