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(update 10/11/10) Sockpuppet Ad bump accounts.

Discussion in 'Questions, Problems, & Feedback' started by Trlsmn, Apr 10, 2010.

  1. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    The sockpuppets Ad bump accounts are out of control. I've given seven members 7 day vacations this week for creating second (fake) accounts to bump their Ads early. This is selfish and unfair to the overwhelming majority of the members that chose to play fair.

    Just to refresh sock puppet bump accounts will be permanently banned and the Puppeteer will be banned for 7 days on the first offense and permanently on the second offense.

    As a side note I would also Ad that 99% of the people caught use the same 2 lame excuses.
    Sock puppet Wiki:

    Sockpuppet (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

     
  2. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    What were the excuses? :confused:


    Mine would be that my uncle came in from out of town and wanted to use my computer to check out the forum and bump my ads for no reason. :bluelaugh:
     
  3. SavageGerbil

    SavageGerbil Salem, OR Active Member

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    If an excuse is as amusing as multiple personality disorder do they get a day knocked off their warning ban?

    You get 'em, Trlsmn, I hate getting greedy-bumped into oblivion
     
  4. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Only if they can prove they are taking their meds!

    Me too! I have an Ad right now I would love to BTT but we Mods, the Supporting Vendors, and even Joey Link follow the same Ad bump rules as everyone else.
     
  5. RockKrawler

    RockKrawler Gresham Member

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    Don't know about anyone else,but i for one would like to know who they are so that i never enter into a transaction with them.
    If someone feels that they are above the forum rules,then they evidently feel they are better than everyone else.That makes them someone i have no desire to do buisiness with.
    Another concern that i have about these types of people,if they are dishonest enough to try and circumvent the system,then they are probably dishonest enough to rip off a potential buyer/seller.
    RK
     
  6. sbryson21

    sbryson21 Nampa, ID Member

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    I completely agree with RockKrawler. I think the best way to stop it would be to make a sticky somewhere on here and list the peoples names. That way we all know who not to do business with and it would shame anyone out of doing it in the first place.
     
  7. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Too bad people's profiles do not indicate they are suspended during their suspension.
     
  8. Doubletap

    Doubletap Newberg Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth..and I know I'll catch a lot of flak over this..I for one think this can be dealt with in other ways.. Just looking in the Handguns section..I see 18 ads in the 1st 2 pages..above my ad..that are closed threads.. I see no reason why closed threads belong above items that are still available..or for that matter..taking up space at all..

    I'm not defending those that break the rules..but I can share their frustrations...
     
  9. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    I wish they did also but they do say banned.
     
  10. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    This could be handled by the seller not posting an additional post stating it's sold before closing their Ad instead changing their original post and/or the title to (Sold). Unfortunately the order of top posts don't discriminate between open and closed.

    That said closed Ads will only be there for a short amount of time as they can't be bumped once they are closed.

    I've looked into this but I can't find a software solution that would push back closed Ads.
     
  11. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    I like the idea but I don't like the idea of a slander suit against NWFA. It's a sticky subject but if there is a chance of legal liability it's just not worth it.
     
  12. sbryson21

    sbryson21 Nampa, ID Member

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    Would it still be considered slander to just post usernames? That's what I was thinking, not putting peoples real names up...?
     
  13. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    In a perfect world truth is never slander. But in a litigious world you can be sued just the same.

    I'm no lawyer but I think an online identity is as good as a legal identity.

    I've had people here threaten to sue me just for giving them a warning infraction for cause. :paranoid:
     
  14. Doubletap

    Doubletap Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Ahh..You see..I'm a simple guy..who looks for simple solutions.. What I'm advocating..and have always advocated..to much disagreement..is simple.. Once the item is gone..so is the thread..
     
  15. sbryson21

    sbryson21 Nampa, ID Member

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    Wow...... :nuts:
     
  16. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Time to update the terms of use and include some of this in there.
     
  17. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Are there any legitimate reasons for creating a sock puppet?

    Say some strange, unrelated to me circumstances, where a political moderate is seen by the local far right goofs (hey, that WAS my nice world for them!) as someone left of lenin, so they want to make a sock puppet used only to go buy the sort of overpriced junk offered in the classifieds, without having to get into a political discussion that may ruin their ability to bargain? lol.
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Our dogs are really smart and internet savvy, and they are gun nuts, I can't help it!
     
  19. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Your IP address for one. vBulletin is great for that. You can try to fake it.. but it don't work. Two accounts, from same IP, one bumping anothers account. Yup, it's obvious on the back end.
     
  20. HappyRoman

    HappyRoman Sherwood Forest Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What meds did you say you were taking, can or would you share, seems like to much fun.. reading all the bs.. Illegal bumping is illegal bumping.. end of story. I got warned 1x, and did not know the rule, have never done again.. Should be fair enough for all..

    I do wish there was some way to do something about the closed ads, however..

    Just my .o2c