U.S. mayors say thousands of guns sold illegally online

[PiratePast40]

And what is wrong with that statement ? There don't seem to be any obstacles for selling a firearm to a person with a criminal record in places where transfer via FFL is not mandatory. I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few firearms are sold to prohibited persons on this very forum. Most members here do ask questions during the sale to verify age and residency, but not everybody asks for a CHL/CPL.

There are laws against selling to felons. If you know about such activity and haven't reported it, then that makes you complicit. If you don't have any knowledge of such activities, then why are you opening your mouth about it? Sounds like the typical socialist / control freak. Imagine something and then push it as reality.

 

[Dunerunner]

fd....

Are you saying you don't recognize Bloomberg and MAIG as a threat to the 2A, or that you are sure that the NRA can take them when it comes down to the playoffs.

I like to identify threats to my freedom early and neutralize their effects before having to undo something they have already imposed upon me.

 

[fd15k]

There are laws against selling to felons. If you know about such activity and haven't reported it, then that makes you complicit. If you don't have any knowledge of such activities, then why are you opening your mouth about it? Sounds like the typical socialist / control freak. Imagine something and then push it as reality.

I don't mind reiterating. I stated that there are no actual obstacles on this forum for firearms to be sold to felons and often other prohibited persons. Such conclusion is based on my experience of selling/buying firearms on this forum. I invite anybody whoever sold guns here to think about their experiences, and think whether that is true or false.

 

[U201491]

fd....

Are you saying you don't recognize Bloomberg and MAIG as a threat to the 2A, or that you are sure that the NRA can take them when it comes down to the playoffs.

I like to identify threats to my freedom early and neutralize their effects before having to undo something they have already imposed upon me.

Amen to that. Bloomberg is a total nutcase and serious threat to the 2nd.

 

[fd15k]

fd....

Are you saying you don't recognize Bloomberg and MAIG as a threat to the 2A, or that you are sure that the NRA can take them when it comes down to the playoffs.

I like to identify threats to my freedom early and neutralize their effects before having to undo something they have already imposed upon me.

Let's say Bloomberg is a threat. How do you propose we deal with such threat early ? Do we run him into bankruptcy ? Do we find a way to put him
to jail ? Do we assassinate him ?

Realistically it's the legislation and litigation that we should worry about, and there are specific actions we can take in response to those.

 

[U201491]

Isnt that article about people who engage in the BUSINESS of selling firearms without an FFL? You don't think that goes on? . The problem is there is no real way to distinguish the difference between someone who sells guns to make a profit as a business without an FFL and someone who has a massive collection and decides to liquidate some of it at current market prices or someone who purchases a firearm to flip and someone who gets bored real quick. I do not agree with all the license requirements but it is the law of the land.

You seem to be in favor of eliminating private sales ?
Why is that ?

 

[U201491]

Of course it is and they can eff off but that is not what the thread is about.

And just what is it you think this thread is about if not to stop the attack on private sales ?

 

[fd15k]

You seem to be in favor of eliminating private sales ?
Why is that ?

Are you okay with felons buying guns on our forum ? Or rather, are you okay with there being no obstacles for felons to buy guns on our forum ?

 

[Tbucket]

It is against the law to sell to a felon, so what good is another law going to do? I have had dealings with a few on this forum and they all asked the right questions and asked to see my CPL. What more can you ask?

 

[fd15k]

It is against the law to sell to a felon, so what good is another law going to do? I have had dealings with a few on this forum and they all asked the right questions and asked to see my CPL. What more can you ask?

There is no legal requirement to ask for a CPL, and a lot of people don't ask for it. There is no legal requirement to ask for a state ID (for age/residency verification) either.

 

[titsonritz]

Are you okay with felons buying guns on our forum ? Or rather, are you okay with there being no obstacles for felons to buy guns on our forum ?

I think felons should be able to own firearms after paying their debt to society. There are many people that have stripped of their rights yet have never committed a violent act in their life. They should have the same capability to defend themselves and their families as you or I. Now these POS repeat violent offenders should never see the light of day again to begin with and thereby have no opportunity to obtain said weapons.

IIRC I glanced at your ID when I sold you that pistol and typically do.

 

[Tbucket]

So do you really believe that most of the people sell to felons on this site? While there may be no requirement, most of the guys and all of the guys I have dealt with do ask those questions.

 

[rufus]

There is no legal requirement to ask for a CPL, and a lot of people don't ask for it. There is no legal requirement to ask for a state ID (for age/residency verification) either.

Well then, better call your buddy Bloomberg and let him know about it.

 

[DMax]

OMG lookout it’s a war gun!!! :gun11:

IT looked to me that the buyers were doing the seach on Craigs List. How is that possible when they do not allow guns for sale. What am I missing?

 

[DMax]

Are you okay with felons buying guns on our forum ? Or rather, are you okay with there being no obstacles for felons to buy guns on our forum ?

You got any numbers as to felons buying guns vs stealing them and that includes from friends and relatives people they know.

 

[U201491]

All good honest gun owners already police themselves very well.
The liability is too great not to.
Criminals get their guns by theft or buying from another criminal.
Stop trying to burden good citizens with more bullcrap laws that do nothing to get criminals off the street.
That kind of agenda is nothing more than another backdoor attempt to destroy the 2nd Amendment !

 

[titsonritz]

IT looked to me that the buyers were doing the seach on Craigs List. How is that possible when they do not allow guns for sale. What am I missing?

They only allow those used to topple governments and take down concrete walls.

 

[Dunerunner]

Let's say Bloomberg is a threat. How do you propose we deal with such threat early ? Do we run him into bankruptcy ? Do we find a way to put him
to jail ? Do we assassinate him ?

Realistically it's the legislation and litigation that we should worry about, and there are specific actions we can take in response to those.

We discredit his MAIG and anti-gun philosophy. We point to where every Gun Free zone has become a "Kill Zone". We redefine the argument in the context of Pro gun ownership and self defense rather than the Anti gun, potential victim stance MAIG and Bloomberg take. We flood the airwaves and news media with articles where private, responsible gun ownership has saved lives and prove through specific example where the lack of the citizenry being able to defend itself has led to exactly what "they" say they are trying to prevent. We show where their thinking is in error, by example. We also continue the fight in the courts. This battle cannot be won on a single front, there are many levels where we need to confront the lies with truth.

 

[titsonritz]

We discredit his MAIG and anti-gun philosophy. We point to where every Gun Free zone has become a "Kill Zone". We redefine the argument in the context of Pro gun ownership and self defense rather than the Anti gun, potential victim stance MAIG and Bloomberg take. We flood the airwaves and news media with articles where private, responsible gun ownership has saved lives and prove through specific example where the lack of the citizenry being able to defend itself has led to exactly what "they" say they are trying to prevent. We show where their thinking is in error, by example. We also continue the fight in the courts. This battle cannot be won on a single front, there are many levels where we need to confront the lies with truth.

And don't forget we laugh and shake our heads when members of MAIG get arrested for their various crimes.


http://www.northwestfirearms.com/legal-political/132311-bloomberg-loses-mayor-sexually-coercing-minor-firing-gun-into-his-wall.html


http://www.northwestfirearms.com/legal-political/132173-another-member-bloomberg-anti-gun-group-gets-arrested.html

 

[U201491]

There is no legal requirement to ask for a CPL, and a lot of people don't ask for it. There is no legal requirement to ask for a state ID (for age/residency verification) either.

Well maybe you sell to felons.
99.9% of the people here do not.
Why do you troll this site. It seems obvious you have little in common with most that are here.