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When the left and right use certain words, the ultimate meaning for the same words are different, the new definition becomes apparent as it is carried out. The propaganda war is upon us. The left does not want you think, they want you to shout slogans when told to do so.

"Peace" to most of us means tranquility, the absence of war or conflict. To a Marxist "peace" means the liquidation of resistance, or the temporary quiet between firing squad volleys....or a quiet cemetary filled with "enemies of the people".

Tranquility is not useful to the Marxist. They must divide a population, aggravate or create differences, demonize those differences, create class conflict and chaos. They move in with "community organizers" a.k.a. agitators with promises of "change", "equality" and "social justice". They replace the old customs, heroes, and institutions with their own. They create martyrs, they make it simple to "believe". Simply hand over what is yours, and they will provide...."trust me".

"Stimulus" means spending to devalue and break our currency....

"People" to us means "we the people". The Marxist "people" are loyal Party members. They are the new elite, privileged class - the Nomenklatura.

"Free speech" to a Marxist is not the First Amendment. It is the Berkeley 'free speech" i.e. conformance to the Party Line.

"Progressive" sounds harmless enough, also "going forward" is used by the left. Those are their soft words for revolution, destroying history, replacing it with their version, with no turning back. Those words bring to my mind a line of Soviet tanks with quiet rubber road tracks.

"Final Solution" was the Nazi definition of genocide or a purge. "Cultural Revolution" was used in China. "Ethnic cleansing" was recently used in the Balkans. We have yet to hear the term for destruction of our Nation and plural society.

"Democracy" to the left is simply conforming to the Party Line. To the rest of the free world it implies free elections with choices.

V.I. Lenin said in 1924: "a lie told often, becomes truth". If they hammer on a falsehood, it soon becomes "true".

"Reasonable" as used by the left means total submission to their dogma.

"Compromise" means the same as "bi-partisan". see "reasonable".

"Negotiate" means the same as "peace in our time" did in 1936. What is theirs will remain theirs, what is yours shall become theirs through "negotiation".

Stalin said "free" elections are fine, but "we" count the votes.

Mugabe used the word "harmony" to describe the elections in Zimbabwe.
"Harmony" was attained by killing or removal of opposition.

Bill Clinton re-defined sex.

The "O" regime has re-defined illegal aliens as "immigrants", gun owners and veterans as "potential terrorists" and middle east terrorists as "jihadists".

"Truth" is re-defined daily in Wash. D.C. and spoken by their network media. "Pravda" is the Russian word for truth.

"Change": the Marxist meaning is being revealed to us....

Some people are turned, some are silent, some are apathetic, some are greedy, some are afraid, and some leave. Politicians all have their price, sometimes there is more influence to buy if you shop locally. History gives us many examples.

Watch the definitions, watch their eyes, and watch what is in their hands.

my 2 cents
 
Trust what an incredible concept in regards to politics. Progressives would rather give up freedom and liberty to trust the government to run their life and be taken care of vs. themselves making personal decisions. Conservatives trust themselves to make personal choices and decisions and would never give up freedom and liberty to the government. So is politics more physiological than ideological or does one lead the other, I don't think reaching across the isle on this one is possible.
 
call me paronoid, maybe I am, but I cant help to shake a power beyond what we think/know is the gubbermint. Sometimes I wonder how we even operate soundly with folks like Osama, Pelosi, Wyden , Murray, Kennedy's & Clintons guiding us. Is it crazy to think theres a "shadow gubbermint"? Too much Art Bell? My intuition thinks so:eek:. Thats just a gut feeling as I just dont believe the imbeciles we know as our leaders are indeed leaders, but more of puppets or tools of entertainment. Anyway, I'm off to the cuckoo nest:s0129:
 
call me paronoid, maybe I am, but I cant help to shake a power beyond what we think/know is the gubbermint. Sometimes I wonder how we even operate soundly with folks like Osama, Pelosi, Wyden , Murray, Kennedy's & Clintons guiding us. Is it crazy to think theres a "shadow gubbermint"? Too much Art Bell? My intuition thinks so:eek:. Thats just a gut feeling as I just dont believe the imbeciles we know as our leaders are indeed leaders, but more of puppets or tools of entertainment. Anyway, I'm off to the cuckoo nest:s0129:

Pelosi's out of power and is likely to resign. I'm assuming you're speaking of the late Ted Kennedy? The Clintons don't have any legislative power, so I don't know why they were mentioned. I'm trusting that the government might actually get something done in the next two years, now that the Dems don't have all three branches.
 
The government is in the "Protection" Racket.
"Give us your money and we'll 'protect' you!"
What will happen if you try to keep ALL of your money and don't give a large chunk to the government? The same that happens to any businesses that fail to pay for "protection" from some of the hoodlum gangs in their area - DESTRUCTION!
 
I will say it again, we have the best form of government in the world but corrupt people running it.

Because you didn't know who is behind the fall of America you may get to be witness to it's overthrow. Glenn Beck is informing people of who is directly at cause of todays problems by name. Study it and you will understand and be prepared. Turn your back on it and prepare to eat your neighbors.

jj
 
The US Government as originally instituted is as perfect a form of government as Man could ever hope to see on Earth. The only problem with it is that people are involved.

Keith
 
Yes... they did.
BOTH sides of the isle are RIFE with Porgressives...

1. Theodore Roosevelt WAS a Progressive/Republican
2. John McCacin IS a Progressive/Republican
3. Lindsay Graham IS a Progressive/Republican
4. George Bush-I IS a Progressive/Republican
5. George Bush-II IS a Progressive/Republican
and the list could go on and on... and on.

It WAS and IS ALWAYS about money and power.

Oregon and Washington have been TOOLED AGAIN!

I'm not going to admit to what kind of grades I got in history, but since school I've read enough of it to see the universality of this condition. And I'd hope that all y'all who passed those high school classes would already have seen it. This was a keystone of the movement to found out country. It's why our countries originating document includes the phrase "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed". We need to solve our "problems" as individuals, sometimes in voluntary coalitions but never at the point of some bureaucrats pen or agents gun. Down that road lies centralization of power into tyranny.
 
Oh lawrdy... HIDE YOUR DAUGHTERS AND BREAK OUT THE SHOTGUNS!!! :D

FINALLY we get to the part of this thread that actually has the mention of a firearm.........

I do not trust the government and that is one of the top reasons for having firearms. :s0155:
 
If you think you can really trust the american government, just ask any native american!

Good point, but if the government had left the issue of the Indian to be sorted out by the business interests and the settlers, I doubt we would have any Indians left at all. Of course, being a liberal, I can only propose that this situation might have happened, I have to leave the 'true knowing' of complex historical- political what ifs to wakco righties who can't even keep current facts straight.


I wonder if any of you every read Twain's 'Huck Fin'? Hucks Dad, the no account drunk, goes into a verbal rampage about the 'govment', any one else think that is amazingly close to a lot of the blather in here?
 
I wonder if any of you every read Twain's 'Huck Fin'? Hucks Dad, the no account drunk, goes into a verbal rampage about the 'govment', any one else think that is amazingly close to a lot of the blather in here?

LOL! That made my day!:s0114::s0114::s0112:
 
Good point, but if the government had left the issue of the Indian to be sorted out by the business interests and the settlers, I doubt we would have any Indians left at all. Of course, being a liberal, I can only propose that this situation might have happened, I have to leave the 'true knowing' of complex historical- political what ifs to wakco righties who can't even keep current facts straight.


Well being as its a historical FACT that the Progressive movement (that you so proudly beat your chests over) was/is RIFE with racists (Woodrow Wilson, Sen. Bobby-boy Byrd, etc.) and eugenics proponents (Margaret Sanger, btw- also a racist) to "cull out the undesireables", I'd wager that it would have indeed happened even if everything had been under a socialist "utopia" from the founding of our country... Although the "cause de jour" would have been labled some inane and "justifiable" progressive slogan, the end would have been the same... inflicting death, robbery, and theft upon others for the love of money, sex, and power... which is fueld by ego, greed, lust, envy, and self-inadequacies. :s0155:
 

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