Fish and game does.I wonder why it took so long to bring this stuff to market.
I know there was plastic cased .38 Special back in the 70's but it didn't last long.
I don't know of anybody who carries so much ammo they need to spend this much to conserve weight however.
Until the price of raw materials goes back the price will not go back to pre panic. Copper theft is again becoming a major problem again as the price has shot up. Not to mention the cost of shipping. Anyone who works in that industry is seeing amazing increases in the price to move goods from one place to another.Was in Lincoln city sports store. Plenty of ammo. High but reasonable priced for current standards. $10 for steel cased 5.56. $14-20 for brass. Even had pistol powder on hand.
Bimart has done a good job at having ammo in stock but their best in class prices haven't returned. $89.99 for 150rd box of 5.56. Last ammo I bought from memory was $69.99 for 200rd box at the end of 2020. I did buy some face to face ammo from folks on this forum this year.
The good news is ammo is available and people can shoot. For various reasons I haven't been out for a few months. A blessing and a curse but it's left me with ammo on hand so I don't have to pay these prices.
An interesting take on the situation.Until the price of raw materials goes back the price will not go back to pre panic. Copper theft is again becoming a major problem again as the price has shot up. Not to mention the cost of shipping. Anyone who works in that industry is seeing amazing increases in the price to move goods from one place to another.
Let's go Brandon!
Hahaha! But since the Vette guys mostly sit around talking about their cars, the price of gas doesn't matter much.This thread reads like people who are willing to buy a corvette for 100 grand, then bubblegum about the price of premium gas
Others have chimed in with appropriate values of the weight, but I would guess the case itself is half of the weight of a brass case.watched a YT vid on various kinds of caseless and plastic case ammo
IIRC comments were made that the plastic cased ammo was half the weight of the brass cased ammo? which to me doesn't sound right either - most of the mass is in the projectile.
The first and most obvious difference between brass-cased and polymer-cased ammunition is a weight reduction of up to 40 percent that comes as a benefit with polymer. https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/true-velocitys-new-polymer-cased-ammunition/247607
378.6 - 295.8 = 82.8, call it 83 grainsweights are as follows, compared to wincheter 149 grain "M80" with True Velocity 168 grain BTHP
Average weight among 3 rounds unfired for M80 is 378.6 grains, for True Velocity is 295.8 grains or 78.1% loaded weight
For fired cases, M80 has an average weight of 185.1 grains, TV weighs in at a fluffy 81.9 grains, or 44.2%
Average powder weights come out to 44.5 grains for M80 and 45.9 grains for TV which surprised me as their website suggests they may use 8-10% less powder in their composite cases as compared to traditional brass cases. Not only did they use MORE powder, but with a heavier projectile as well. Granted, I can't say what powder each company uses. 45.9 is definitely on the higher end for most 168 grain loads I've seen published.
I'd be happy to sell you one round, though shipping would likely not be worth it. Or just let me know when/if you're in the Eugene area.Hahaha! But since the Vette guys mostly sit around talking about their cars, the price of gas doesn't matter much.
Other's have chimed in with appropriate values of the weight, but I would guess the case itself is half of the weight of a brass case.
And speaking of prices, anyone ever check the price of a box of 20 Weatherby rounds? Or something like the Ruger 375? Geeze, I bought a box of premium ammo for the wife's 7mm-08 and was tickled to get it for less than $40 a few years ago.
We don't have a 308 anymore or I'd buy one box for fun. I'd like to have one round for my haphazard cartridge/case collection.