So i don't have any Jags for cleaning my barrels, i hate patch pullers and at the same time, don't really know how to use them. I have brushes for everything, but i want the kind of effectiveness from running a patch through, as i get from the 'patch' part of a bore snake. I have been running patches on the outside of brushes, and considered getting a Jag instead, i didn't want to push the jag on a rod, then found reverse Jags. However, at this point, i found the Tornado brushes and thought they'd act like a more forgiving Jag if i used it with a patch over it. My question is, has anyone had experience with, or uses Tornado brushes? (Hoppe's 9 - The Gun Care People) I understand they're mild steel, but there are no 'ends' of the wire to scratch/damage the barrel, so that should be fine, allowing me to use them as regular brushes (sans patch) if needed as well. Thoughts?