Took my WASR 10 to the range today

Boboclown · Jul 20, 2019

biggie24420 said:
I run a recoil buffer in my AK. I've seen slow motion videos of the bolt carrier smacking into the rear trunnion, yet a lot of folks say that the AK doesn't need a recoil buffer lol.... ooooookay!
Anyway, right now I have a strike industries blue recoil buffer.
I have never had an issue with rounds not loading properly and no extraction/ejection issues either. The recoil is softer and more enjoyable IMO.
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A good spring and it won't beat the trunnion to death.

Artilleryman · Jul 20, 2019

⎕ IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A 06/10/10 (Thu) 22:32 No. 6338938

WHY YOU WANT RAIL FOR KALASHNIKOV? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS? YOU THINK NEEDS IMPROVEMENT? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH ARMY OF RUSSIA! YOU HAVE DRINKS WITH MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, TRADE STORY OF MANY WEAPONS DESIGNED AND DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR ENGINEERING!

OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS. PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN WEAPON IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT FINE RUSSIAN RIFLE, THINK IT NEED CRAZY bubblegum STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF AMERICAN CAPITALIST, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM COMRADE. YOU PUT CHEAP FLASHLIGHT OF CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY ON ONE SIDE, YOU PUT BAD SCOPE OF AMERICAN MIDDLE WEST ON OTHER SIDE, YOU PUT FRONT PISTOL GRIP ON BOTTOM SO YOU ARE LIKE AMERICAN MOVIE GUY JOHN RAMBO. MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO bubblegum YOURSELF IN bubblegum FOR MAKING SHAMEFUL TRAVESTY OF RIFLE OF MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, NO?

RIFLE IS FINE. YOU bubblegum IT, IT ONLY GET HEAVY AND YOU STILL NO HIT LARGEST SIDE OF BARN. GO TO FIRING RANGE, PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE OF CARTRIDGE. THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB bubblegum PUT ON SIDE OF RIFLE.

revjen45 · Jul 20, 2019

WASR 10 - The Yugo of Kalashnikovs!!

And yup, they work every time.

Boboclown · Jul 20, 2019

Artilleryman said:
⎕ IVAN CHESNOKOV !!4AFNigi37A 06/10/10 (Thu) 22:32 No. 6338938

WHY YOU WANT RAIL FOR KALASHNIKOV? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS? YOU THINK NEEDS IMPROVEMENT? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH ARMY OF RUSSIA! YOU HAVE DRINKS WITH MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, TRADE STORY OF MANY WEAPONS DESIGNED AND DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR ENGINEERING!

OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS. PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN WEAPON IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT FINE RUSSIAN RIFLE, THINK IT NEED CRAZY bubblegum STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF AMERICAN CAPITALIST, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM COMRADE. YOU PUT CHEAP FLASHLIGHT OF CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY ON ONE SIDE, YOU PUT BAD SCOPE OF AMERICAN MIDDLE WEST ON OTHER SIDE, YOU PUT FRONT PISTOL GRIP ON BOTTOM SO YOU ARE LIKE AMERICAN MOVIE GUY JOHN RAMBO. MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO bubblegum YOURSELF IN bubblegum FOR MAKING SHAMEFUL TRAVESTY OF RIFLE OF MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, NO?

RIFLE IS FINE. YOU bubblegum IT, IT ONLY GET HEAVY AND YOU STILL NO HIT LARGEST SIDE OF BARN. GO TO FIRING RANGE, PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE OF CARTRIDGE. THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB bubblegum PUT ON SIDE OF RIFLE.

Man would that guy have been pissed off by the Russians themselves then.

Artilleryman · Jul 20, 2019

Ivan is a bit of a traditionalist

biggie24420 · Jul 21, 2019

Stomper said:
Does that recoil buffer show any strike marks on it?

Slightly. I haven't shot it much but it looks like the back of the bolt carrier has made contact.

biggie24420 · Jul 21, 2019

Boboclown said:
A good spring and it won't beat the trunnion to death.

Yeah I've heard that too. I have an ALG defense spring in my Mak90. I shot it before and after the buffer installation, personally I like it with a buffer.

Boboclown · Jul 21, 2019

Artilleryman said:
Ivan is a bit of a traditionalist

Its weird how the Russians don't care for keeping AKs "pure" but we do here.

ACO · Jul 21, 2019

You know, I was just thinking about these this week. I have a M92-PAP pistol that we put a triangle folder on when we SBR'd it. I was talking to another guy who put a new rear trunion on his as well, and we both have no end of trouble with the rear trunion getting destroyed by the BCG's recoil. I tried these buffers, but I think it added to the problem by making the contact with the rear trunion happen sooner and adding mass that increased pressure on the rear rivets. We both have rivet failure and resorted to adding welds, which have subsequently also failed.

Is there any other way to reduce recoil, like venting more gass off or something?

I still have these buffer pads on my M70 and PSAK currently, so I think its just an M92 issue.

Boboclown · Jul 21, 2019

OsterAC said:
You know, I was just thinking about these this week. I have a M92-PAP pistol that we put a triangle folder on when we SBR'd it. I was talking to another guy who put a new rear trunion on his as well, and we both have no end of trouble with the rear trunion getting destroyed by the BCG's recoil. I tried these buffers, but I think it added to the problem by making the contact with the rear trunion happen sooner and adding mass that increased pressure on the rear rivets. We both have rivet failure and resorted to adding welds, which have subsequently also failed.

Is there any other way to reduce recoil, like venting more gass off or something?

I still have these buffer pads on my M70 and PSAK currently, so I think its just an M92 issue.

Need a stiffer recoil spring. Adjustable piston helps too but no idea if they make one short enough. It seems the yugos have softer steel than other combloc AKs so who knows.

ACO · Jul 21, 2019

Thats a good idea. I did some poking around amd found this:

Adjustable Gas Piston

Finally, a drop-in solution for taming the notoriously-overgassed AK platform. The patent-pending KNS AK Adjustable Gas Piston is a replacement for the AK’s...

khybercustoms.com

So I think I'll give it a try. Looks like it will let me dial it in perfectly and allow me to adjust for suppression down the road.

Tony617 · Jul 21, 2019

Only thing I have changed on the internals of my WASR 10 was to replace the retaining wire "shepherds hook" with this item :

Retaining Plate

bsa1917hunter · Jul 21, 2019

I'm glad others posted pics. I was going to say this threads is worthless without pics. Usually a thread about going to the range, you need to post some pics. Start off with something like this:

I went to the range today: