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Great information! Now as soon as I can persuade JCord to ship that Beretta 21A to my local FFL I'll get a threaded barrel for it. And probably a Bowers Bitty.
 
Great information! Now as soon as I can persuade JCord to ship that Beretta 21A to my local FFL I'll get a threaded barrel for it. And probably a Bowers Bitty.
If u r serious about the 21a I would STRONGLY suggest shooting it in person first. It was my #1 choice in the "worst gun you ever had" thread (or whatever it was called).
 
Another vote here for both the MkIV and the SR by Ruger. Wife loves both a lot. I really love the MKIV
The MkIV looks like it was designed to be a suppressor host, rather than the threaded barrel being an afterthought.

If u r serious about the 21a I would STRONGLY suggest shooting it in person first. It was my #1 choice in the "guns you wish u never bought" thread (or whatever it was called).
I've heard the blowback and port pop is rather noticeable. Would you agree?
 
I've heard the blowback and port pop is rather noticeable. Would you agree?
Well it would take a long time to list all the issues with that guns design (that I experienced anyway). I would probably start with very picky about ammo (both shape of nose for failure to feed issues and need for consistent very high power to have reliable slide operation -ie pretty much mini mags only). Inaccurate as all get out do to short barrel and horrible sights. Very susceptible to poor operation once even a little bit dirty. Incredibly loud and harsh muzzle blast. Uncomfortable/harsh to shoot. Inconsistent hammer strike. Pretty poor trigger but not the worst I've ever used. Probably a lot of other things I could mention but those are the top ones. In the other thread I called it a hateful, hateful gun and that is the best I can describe it for me. I honestly would not take one if someone gave me one for free (assuming resale was not possible I mean).
Edit: forgot tiny little hammer that is hard to cock and bites your thumb. On the plus side I like the flip up barrel. Also slide is very hard to rack if hammer is forward. I think one of the reasons it fails as soon as it is a little bit dirty is the lack of an extractor (pure blow back to eject the shell upwards) so as it gets dirty it makes sense it would be harder to eject but that is just a guess on my part.
 
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I'm pretty sure the 21a is just an Instagram whore for silencer companies. I know I want one basically only on the merit every stinking silencer company posts gun porn with that pistol.

Besides, who said it had to work. :confused:
 
I was watching Hickok45's video of the suppressed 21a, and while he always loves the guns he tests, his was running smoothly and accurately, so I concluded it is not horrible.
 
I was watching Hickok45's video of the suppressed 21a, and while he always loves the guns he tests, his was running smoothly and accurately, so I concluded it is not horrible.
Interesting. Perhaps the suppressor helps with what I consider inherent flaws in the design. For example it relies on blowback -shooting the shell out the top kinda toward your face- for shell ejection rather than an extractor like most pistols have. Perhaps the suppressor adds more back pressure which makes it function more reliably. Imo it's a terrible design and a nightmare to own. But everyone is different and someone else may like it which is fine. That's why I recommend shooting it first as it is not a usual design and certainly not known to be reliable imo like many of the more standard designs.
 
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This is how I roll..
Got an ugly Ruger Mark 2 cheap since the previous owner left it in a moist holster...and this happened:
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So I figured WTF and took some inspiration from
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And had Wally down at Gators chuck it up in his lathe...But to insure the bullet had time to stabilize and not risk bafflestrikes on my $400(+stamp) Silencerco Spectre2 we decided to leave 1.5" of Barrel. Glad I did, cause it only cycles reliably with CCI Standard Velocity, and later my buddy had his cut to 1/2" and it's a pain in thasss.
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Still pondering what to do for a front sight.
 
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Still pondering what to do for a front sight.
Hmm maybe use something temporary like pieces of masking tape (or whatever) to determine how high sight should be then get a shotgun front sight that is about the same height?

I noticed there are many kinds from low profile to higher. F.e. A few pages of them here: Front Sight Bead

Or if u want to go a totally different direction u could attach a piece of $10 metal picatinny rail and then add a red dot like this $27 one (which works awesome btw) https://www.amazon.com/d/Airsoft-Gu...ght+fyland&dpPl=1&dpID=41zP4hdyfrL&ref=plSrch

Example from internet
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Interesting. Perhaps the suppressor helps with what I consider inherent flaws in the design. For example it relies on blowback -shooting the shell out the top kinda toward your face- for shell ejection rather than an extractor like most pistols have. Perhaps the suppressor adds more back pressure which makes it function more reliably. Imo it's a terrible design and a nightmare to own. But everyone is different and someone else may like it which is fine. That's why I recommend shooting it first as it is not a usual design and certainly not known to be reliable imo like many of the more standard designs.
I own one. Until I began to run cci in it, it wouldn't cycle. Very dangerous for a self defense weapon. Once you use the right ammo in it, it feeds and cycles properly. Try running cci.
 
This is how I roll..
Got an ugly Ruger Mark 2 cheap since the previous owner left it in a moist holster...and this happened:
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So I figured WTF and took some inspiration from
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And had Wally down at Gators chuck it up in his lathe...But to insure the bullet had time to stabilize and not risk bafflestrikes on my $400(+stamp) Silencerco Spectre2 we decided to leave 1.5" of Barrel. Glad I did, cause it only cycles reliably with CCI Standard Velocity, and later my buddy had his cut to 1/2" and it's a pain in thasss.
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Still pondering what to do for a front sight.
It looks like you might have just enough barrel left to drill and tap for a front sight base. You might try something like this:

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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2...r-mark-ii-mark-iii-22-45-aluminum-fiber-optic
 

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