Thoughts on Winchester 244 Handgun Powder

[washagonian]

REGARDING: Winchester 244 Powder

Today, 9/20/22, I just posted a link in the "great deals" section to Powdervalley which has Winchester 244 IN STOCK AND ON SALE.

This post is just a discussion about the powder itself and my experience with it, for those who are curious about the powder but haven't tried it.

Win 244 is a relatively new powder, introduced in January of 2018. It's VERY SIMILAR to TiteGroup in powder composition, size, metering, and grains per load data. It's also very versatile like TiteGroup and can be used across a variety of handgun loads and calibers

I've been experimenting with Win 244 this past year. I'm just a handgun plinker reloader, so I don't chrono, my loads. Just looking for available powder at a reasonable price to load the 8 different calibers I shoot, so I can shoot a lot. Win 244 had been GREAT and it has been AVAILABLE and REASONABLY PRICED. I've used in 32 ACP, 380 ACP, 38 spl, 357 mag, 9mm, 40 S&W, 10mm, & 45 ACP. Works great for plinking.

I think, because it's relatively new and unknown, people don't scarf it up like they do TiteGroup when it becomes available. It really is working out great for me.

Here's an article with more detailed information.

https://www.handloadermagazine.com/propellant-profiles-9

Take what you like and leave the rest.

Cheers.

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[oremike]

I like 244 powder and buy it when I can get it.

 

[Cerberus Group]

Welll...244 has been around many years before 2018 to commercial loaders, it's considered an OEM powder.

It's great for 9mm and a few other calibers.

I've got factory load data if anyone is interested.

 

[2ndtimer]

Thanks for the tip! If I hadn't just ordered a 4 lb. keg of Ramshot Zip, I would have considered it. I wonder how Zip compares to 244?

 

[Cerberus Group]

The burn rate is close to 231, Unique, Universal, and Power Pistol

 

[DirectDrive]

The burn rate is close to 231, Unique, Universal, and Power Pistol

This ^^^

https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/2020-burn-rate-chart.pdf

 

[WillametteWill]

...and some was on the shelf last night at Sportsman's Salem if anyone local is in need.

 

[washagonian]

Welll...244 has been around many years before 2018 to commercial loaders, it's considered an OEM powder.

It's great for 9mm and a few other calibers.

I've got factory load data if anyone is interested.

I'd appreciate receiving the factory load data for Win 244. Let me know if you need an email address to send it to. Thanks.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

I've never used the 244, but I think it's spectacular that you fellas like it. That leaves a bit more Titegroup on the shelves for me! Thank you!

 

[clueless]

REGARDING: Winchester 244 Powder

Today, 9/20/22, I just posted a link in the "great deals" section to Powdervalley which has Winchester 244 IN STOCK AND ON SALE.

This post is just a discussion about the powder itself and my experience with it, for those who are curious about the powder but haven't tried it.

Win 244 is a relatively new powder, introduced in January of 2018. It's VERY SIMILAR to TiteGroup in powder composition, size, metering, and grains per load data. It's also very versatile like TiteGroup and can be used across a variety of handgun loads and calibers

I've been experimenting with Win 244 this past year. I'm just a handgun plinker reloader, so I don't chrono, my loads. Just looking for available powder at a reasonable price to load the 8 different calibers I shoot, so I can shoot a lot. Win 244 had been GREAT and it has been AVAILABLE and REASONABLY PRICED. I've used in 32 ACP, 380 ACP, 38 spl, 357 mag, 9mm, 40 S&W, 10mm, & 45 ACP. Works great for plinking.

I think, because it's relatively new and unknown, people don't scarf it up like they do TiteGroup when it becomes available. It really is working out great for me.

Here's an article with more detailed information.

https://www.handloadermagazine.com/propellant-profiles-9

Take what you like and leave the rest.

Cheers.

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For 9mm, the loading charts show that it is capable of delivering a little more velocity than 231. However, it is also more dense and so 231 is a little better in terms of case fill. I have also had better luck making accurate loads with 231 than with 244. After much experimenting I abandoned 244, and favor 231 for loading 115gr at 1200 fps and below. If loading 380 ACP for any kind of self-defense use, the power advantage of 244 would be welcome.

 

[gmerkt]

I like 244. I also like Tite Group, and have used 231 for years. But 244 still retains its (more or less) spherical shape, whereas 231 and Tite Group are flattened. So 244 seems to meter just a little better for me, and doesn't attract static electricity like the flattened ball powders. Which like to cling to the inside of the powder measure. I'm not a precision shooter, so at typical pistol ranges I don't notice any substantive difference in accuracy between any of these. I appreciate the low charge weights of all three.

Alas, my bottle of 244 has about two tablespoons remaining. Yet I have a full bottle each of Tite Group and 231, so those are my involuntary choices for the foreseeable future.

 

[po18guy]

Load data at: https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/reloading-data-center
The beauty of ball powder is its flow through a measure and weight consistency.

Powderwise, I am waiting to try some V-V vN-105. Excellent in semi pistols. According to data, it really wakes up the 380 and .45ACP and within pressure limits.