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This is why we need to protect our borders and STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATOIN

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Kelzebubba, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. Kelzebubba

    Kelzebubba Fort Worth, TX/USA Public Outhouse Active Member

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    Beware Of Deadly New Virus, CDC Warns Officials

    No reported cases in the US yet, but there will be soon enough. Diseases which we haven't had in a long time, like small pox could wipe out a large chunk of our population if illegal immigrants have it when they enter the country without going through the system.
     
  2. Botte Hork

    Botte Hork Camas WA Well-Known Member

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    If there'd be no illegal immigration, you wouldn't stop this one bit. As a legal immigrant, I didn't have to go through the vaccination part of the program until one of the final stages of the green card process. I'd been in the country for about 2 years then, legally of course.

    Secondly, taking immigration out of the equation, you will not counter new viruses unless a vaccine exists and the population is sufficiently vaccinated (an issue for example in the so-called "bible belt" in Holland, where people don't vaccinate out of religious reasons). The word "new" implies that a cure might not be developed yet (and even "old" diseases have this problem, think of the HIV/AIDS virus, for example) and few people get vaccinated for everything.

    There's also a big media hype, like with anything. Look at West-Nile. Big thing in the media, most recent CDC numbers say just below 5400 registered cases and less than 250 deaths. Then look at good old influenza, what you'd call "flu". CDC chart showing only pediatric deaths over last few years:

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    With a link to a more interactive page: Influenza-Associated Pediatric Mortality


    And these are only kids. Influenza is also a killer among the elderly, but it's been there for ages so nobody gets too anxious anymore.





    That said, I agree that illegal immigration is something to be countered and prosecuted (and sentences should be executed as well). I did it the legal way, so why not others. And if farmers start bubbleguming about not getting enough workers, talk to your people in congress to get more seasonal agricultural visas.
     
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  3. tminus

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    What about a mandatory time in one of the services to get a citizenship, or civil service. Also a cap on family that could be brought. Both of these of course along with tighter immigrant control. Also where would all the good cocaine come from? Im all grown up now butt dont all you act like you didnt do some partying. Im sure many of our top politicians did at some point also. The Bushes, Clintons and so and so on. Then death sentence for meth cooks.
     
  4. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Strange my wife had to prove she'd had all the vaccinations before receiving her visa, or entering the country... That was a long time ago... Perhaps the process might be different for different countries...

    If the government is running it you now it's not consistent...
     
  5. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, immigration policy sure won't have much effect on the movement of microorganisms. Good luck on that one. How many international flights are there every day?
     
  6. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    My only gripe, and demand would be NO ONE coming to the US should get any kind of govt assistance, tax break, child credit, interest free or discounted loans, tuition discounts or get it free, any kind of welfare, housing assistance , food stamps, social security, etc for at least 10 years after working and paying taxes. And no social security until after paying in at keast 20 years.


    But this will NEVER happen!
     
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  7. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    "NO ONE coming to the US should get any kind of govt assistance, tax break, child credit, interest free or discounted loans, tuition discounts or get it free, any kind of welfare, housing assistance , food stamps, social security, etc for at least 10 years after working and paying taxes."

    I'm all for that. In fact I'd remove the time limit, and make it apply to everybody, not just immigrants.

    And this WILL happen, but it will take a crashed economy to do it.
     
  8. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    My solution: 4 years Federal service for all illegal immigrants 18-45, pass an English test, pass the citizenship exam, pass a drug test,find a job, Welcome to the US. Their Federal service could be the military, Americorps, Civilian Conservation Corps, or even documented Peace Corps. Older or younger, green card after passing drug test and documenting you can get a job and speak english 4 years probation, you commit a felony? you are gone, come back and get caught 10 years hard labor in federal prison.

    Brutus Out
     
  9. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Service guarantees citizenship... want to know more?




    :D
     
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  10. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! You wanna live forever?
     
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  11. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Only if it's on the bounce, you ape!
     
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  12. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    I want you to warm up everything you've got!

    Brutus Out
     
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