This is the first time I have heard of anybody charged with these crimes

[rdb241]

• Unlawful manufacture of an untraceable firearm with the intent to sell the untraceable firearm
• Undetectable or untraceable firearms, knowingly/recklessly allow/aid/facilitate/abed the assembly/manufacture by person ineligible to possess
• Failure to use dealer to facilitate transfer between two private parties.

Jay Inslee's untracable/undetectable executive order he signed in 2016 and the first person to be charged with failing to use a dealer to tranfer a sold firearm courtesy of I-594.

Man accused of illegally selling guns, including one used to kill Cowlitz Co. deputy

A man was arrested Wednesday, accused of illegally selling guns, including the one that was used to kill a Cowlitz County Deputy in 2019, according to Longview police. On Wednesday, the Lower Columbia SWAT team served a search warrant at Trevor Batchelor’s home on Columbia St. in Cathlamet...

komonews.com

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[po18guy]

Dude had it coming. Regardlress of what Inslee does or says or orders, the Feds trump all of it.

 

[rdb241]

Dude had it coming. Regardlress of what Inslee does or says or orders, the Feds trump all of it.

Oh I don't disagree. I was just making the point I have not heard of anybody charged with those crimes until now.

 

[po18guy]

Oh I don't disagree. I was just making the point I have not heard of anybody charged with those crimes until now.

Shows how effective Inslee's word is. The criminal element is quivering. At least they found a 'white supremacist' to hang for it.

 

[Alexx1401]

I have read of people being gone after over "casper" guns a few times when they were doing it as a "business". Have read of some being gone after over "straw purchase". Have seen some gone after over selling a firearm to someone they should have known, or LEO's claimed the person knew was not allowed to buy. So sounds like this guy was doing it all, was warned he was being watched, and chose to keep doing it. It does not sound like he sold one gun, it ended up in a "high profile" shoot, and they came after him. Sounds like he was playing stupid games and was warned he was going to win stupid prizes. Yet kept playing stupid games. Again I have zero faith in the "news" any more but, so far this does not sound like someone I would feel sorry for. If this is even 75% true, as reported? This is the kind of stupidity that paints all gun owners with the public and leads to support of more laws.

 

[rdb241]

I have read of people being gone after over "casper" guns a few times when they were doing it as a "business". Have read of some being gone after over "straw purchase". Have seen some gone after over selling a firearm to someone they should have known, or LEO's claimed the person knew was not allowed to buy. So sounds like this guy was doing it all, was warned he was being watched, and chose to keep doing it. It does not sound like he sold one gun, it ended up in a "high profile" shoot, and they came after him. Sounds like he was playing stupid games and was warned he was going to win stupid prizes. Yet kept playing stupid games. Again I have zero faith in the "news" any more but, so far this does not sound like someone I would feel sorry for. If this is even 75% true, as reported? This is the kind of stupidity that paints all gun owners with the public and leads to support of more laws.

State some cases then..............................................

 

[TTSX]

The law is the law. We got what we voted for and there are consequences. Dude tried to get around the law to make a buck, got caught.

 

[Alexx1401]

State some cases then..............................................

Too lazy to spend a lot of time searching but some of it has come up here. One was when the casper gun thing was really taking off some were setting up a CNC, having people come in, the shop would set up your lower, then tell you to push the button. Feds came down on one of them not long ago over this. The "straw purchase" has been prosecuted many times where a gun ended up in some "high profile" shoot. Again should not be hard to search.
Now for those who want to "not believe it happens"? Hell matters not to me, they can go for all this. When WA made it against the law to sell without an FFL I stopped doing it. Many claim they still do and say nothing will happen. Hey they can have at it, I am big on freedom. Same with casper guns. I was never interested in them until they started making noise to get rid of them. Then I of course had to make some. I will NEVER sell a lower I made. If I no longer wanted it I would scrap it. Many claim they have sold and will keep doing it. Again they are welcome to do so all they want. If they get themselves in a jam, I will not feel sorry for them.
Again for any who do not believe it? Hell go for it then.

 

[po18guy]

We all (should) know the rules. Ignoramuses and bigmouths tend not to. Their bad. We may not agree with the rules, but only a fool disregards warnings - FROM THE FEDS!!! - about felonious gun dealing. And, look at what that indiscriminate gun dealing added up to: A dead Deputy.

This is what prisons are made for.

 

[rdb241]

Too lazy to spend a lot of time searching but some of it has come up here. One was when the casper gun thing was really taking off some were setting up a CNC, having people come in, the shop would set up your lower, then tell you to push the button. Feds came down on one of them not long ago over this. The "straw purchase" has been prosecuted many times where a gun ended up in some "high profile" shoot. Again should not be hard to search.
Now for those who want to "not believe it happens"? Hell matters not to me, they can go for all this. When WA made it against the law to sell without an FFL I stopped doing it. Many claim they still do and say nothing will happen. Hey they can have at it, I am big on freedom. Same with casper guns. I was never interested in them until they started making noise to get rid of them. Then I of course had to make some. I will NEVER sell a lower I made. If I no longer wanted it I would scrap it. Many claim they have sold and will keep doing it. Again they are welcome to do so all they want. If they get themselves in a jam, I will not feel sorry for them.
Again for any who do not believe it? Hell go for it then.

Being lazy does not proove anything. Unless you have case references. it's all hot air BS.

 

[Member 3687]

Felon who made 'ghost guns' sentenced to 5 years in prison

SEATTLE (AP) — A federal judge handed a nearly six-year prison term Friday to a Washington state man who amassed an arsenal of homemade “ghost guns” despite being on federal supervision for an earlier firearms conviction. Nathan Brasfield, of Edmonds, was arrested in 2014 for being a felon in...

apnews.com

Three Army soldiers charged over alleged role in illegal gun pipeline connected to Chicago shooting

3 Charged With Making 'Ghost Guns' In PA, Selling Them In NJ

The first article is from Washington state the rest from other states this was a 30 second search and I see them in the news all the time but I guess you got to look for them to find them

 

[po18guy]

Three Army soldiers charged over alleged role in illegal gun pipeline connected to Chicago shooting

3 Charged With Making 'Ghost Guns' In PA, Selling Them In NJ

'bout danged time!