Hey you all, Your board is pretty cool so far. Years ago, in the '70's I picked up a 10/22 and Mark II to plink and vermin hunt. You see no one in my family hunted. It was not then cool to advertise having a gun in the household. So with lots of kids to worry about and no hunting by dad, no guns were about growing up. I bought a pistol and rifle but didn't really use them. Now 30 years later, I've brought home a new defense and maybe CC pistol - thanks to some FFL's on this board. So it seems I am just starting out at an older age. Well this board has been my information place so far. In a way, you all are my mentors. Seems funny that an internet site might hold my mentors. Yah, Joey, I did post elsewhere on this board before intro's. You can kick my butt in person at the Expo Gun show. I'll look for you all then. Thanks, John free person builder tradesman off member maybe nra too later sometimes chats too much "so sue me"