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ThinkProgress uses deceptive photo to make gun rights activists look threatening

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Charles98683, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Charles98683

    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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  2. luke23

    luke23 United States (Hawai'i island, Olympic Pen. WA) Active Member

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    Think Progress is unbelievably deceptive about everything remotely gun-related. I used to try correcting them, but it was like bailing out the Pacific ocean with a spoon. Impossible.
     
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  3. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    So, do you think that applies to all issues, or only on gun-related issues?
     
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  4. luke23

    luke23 United States (Hawai'i island, Olympic Pen. WA) Active Member

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    Ultimately I think everyone is both right and wrong at times. In my opinion, TP is all right at most economic issues, and bad at social issues.
     
  5. Charles98683

    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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    With some people The Ends Always Justify The Means.
    Those who are anti gun seem to have a greater than average percentage of people willing to do whatever they can to advance their agenda (including being dishonest).
    I don't like dishonesty even if its used to promote something that I agree with. I wonder why there isn't an outcry from anti gunners who abhor this type of "any means necessary" politics.

    And all they want is an "honest dialogue" and "common sense"... *shake my head*
     
  6. Charles98683

    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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    There are so many publications out there these days that we don't have to compromise and put up with a "half-right" news source.
     
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    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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    And the low info voters buy into it without question.
     
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  8. Charles98683

    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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    At this point I think we can just refer to them as voters, they seem to be the majority nowadays.
     
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  9. luke23

    luke23 United States (Hawai'i island, Olympic Pen. WA) Active Member

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    There's the problem concisely. It's not a 'news source' if it is sharing things that are incorrect. That's my big problem with American news media. It's there to entertain and get good ratings. If you go overseas, you usually find some better journalism. BBC isn't bad, RT and Isvestia are OK, Al Jazeera English is excellent, and Haaretz is very good as well, though generally has a more regional focus.
     
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    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Is it right and wrong or deceptive vs. truthful? There is a difference. They are either honest or they are not.
     
  11. Charles98683

    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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    Its true that we've blurred the line between News and Commentary, but that's not always a bad thing. If there's a story that I don't care about enough to research myself than its nice to have the opinion of someone who has. However, if the commentator doesn't have any integrity then anything they say is suspect.

    Having a strictly News outlet as well as multiple news/commentary sources would be ideal. That's what the AP was supposed to be.
     
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    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Israeli Mossad motto -

    "By way of deception, though shall do war"
     
  13. luke23

    luke23 United States (Hawai'i island, Olympic Pen. WA) Active Member

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    Unfortunately, the AP has slipped. AFP is still pretty good, but Reuters has just gotten far too British.

    I think the problem is that raw news has fallen out of vogue. It used to be that you turned on the tv, and there was an anchor reading news reports. Occasionally they had someone in the field reporting. But now, everything is just rival commentators who look like they're ten seconds away from turning into ancient Roman gladiators. If you get actual news, people get bored.

    Not a lot of people here care about Serbs on trial for war crimes or a contaminated beef epidemic in the UK, and that's exactly the sort of raw news I've seen on AJE. Instead, we want to hear about wars on Christmas, pop stars in rehab, missing white girls, and a whole bunch of drivel.

    And if you're like me and just want the raw stories that matter, then you're weird.
     
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    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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    Thank God for the internet. Twitter can be a great news source if you follow the right sources.
     
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    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    luke, I'm proud to say we agree on a point 100%...yay!

    You are so spot on regarding the news today.....spend time overseas in any country and you'll see better, more in-depth news coverage about America than we get.
     
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    luke23 United States (Hawai'i island, Olympic Pen. WA) Active Member

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    Sign of the end times? ;)

    What really got me was that when I first went off to college (Georgetown), I was really heavily reliant on US media. Got a lot of stuff from Fox and CNN, and took it all seriously. While there, I learned a lot more about the middle east, and I found that if you look at AJE or Haaretz, you actually get some really good coverage.

    From there it just expanded until I realized American media wants my money, and that's it.
     
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    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I find that if I blend RT America, AJE, ITN, Reuters, with some of the US news I can get some semblance of reality and truth.
     
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    luke23 United States (Hawai'i island, Olympic Pen. WA) Active Member

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    That's the way an informed citizen does it. Good job sir!
     
  19. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Real men just keep slapping the MSM nancies until they say what we want them to say.
     
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    Oklahomie Marysville Active Member

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    The comments on the article at the website are hilariously sad. I went read the source and man...those guys are special.