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I remember watching "In Search Off" as a kid and in the 1970s global cooling was talked about not greenhouse gas. Soylent Green was based on the greenhouse effect instead.

 
Heretic, you are TOTALLY right on this. It's a slow collapse. We're in the water as it comes to a boil. Some have been imprisoned for their constitutional rights, others have been robbed, raped or killed. It's a slow collapse for sure.
 
99.789% of the people do not know or care. The politicians and government employees are a criminal gang that makes MS 13 gang look like a Boy Scout troop. The collapse is needed to usher in the new world order.
 
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I remember watching the pear orchards in southern Oregon get bulldozed during the 2003-2007 housing boom in order to develop them into subdivisions because the price of housing was going up so fast it was irresistible. I can't help but think how short-sighted that was now that those orchards and the food they produced are gone forever...
 
99.789% of the people do not know or care. The politicians and government employees are a criminal gang that makes MS 13 gang look like a Boy Scout troop. The collapse is needed to usher in the new world order.
^^^ This ^^^

Because there's no other way to throw America into the deep end of the NWO pool... This has been coming for many decades, George HW Bush was hot on the NWO, remember listening to him talking about it during his presidency...

As complacent as Americans can be, they're not dumb enough to buy into the NWO en mass, there would e enough resistance.... But create a disaster that's far reaching and impacts a large cross section of the country, rally them together against an identifiable enemy or cause, then folks will be lining up to surrender their rights, liberties and freedoms...

The Patriot Act was a step in that direction...

It's critical for us to enlighten our children to the truths of what's really going on, to counteract the brainwashing of public education and to reverse the impact of the liberal and socialistic college and university campuses...
 
I remember watching the pear orchards in southern Oregon get bulldozed during the 2003-2007 housing boom in order to develop them into subdivisions because the price of housing was going up so fast it was irresistible. I can't help but think how short-sighted that was now that those orchards and the food they produced are gone forever...

That is why Oregon has laws on preserving farm land, but it is up to each region as to how they do that. Washington county is very strict on that, with laws that prevent urban sprawl (growth boundaries) and prevent dividing up farm land, plus how many houses you can put on a plot. I cannot subdivide my acreage if I want to, and neither can most of the landowners in my area. It is nice to know that if I choose to stay here, a housing development won't go up right next to my property.

When I lived in the Seattle area, there were sprinklings of these kinds of development everywhere - out in the middle of the woods, all of a sudden, 500 houses with a strip mall and gas station would appear - as long as there was a road to it. There was one out off I-90 called Snoqualmie Ridge that suddenly appeared one year - cookie cutter houses so close together you could barely walk between them. People would drive 20 miles out I-90 and pay premium prices to live in a suburban area that was indistinguishable from any other suburban area in the city, but this one was on a hill where there used to be woods. I stopped to look at it once - I passed by one house that was a mirror image of the one next to it, and the same car model and color and year was parked in both driveways.

It really comes down to population - as I think I said before. The more people, the less resources we have. Also, more and more people pack into the cities. Not only are they setting themselves up for problems - not just crime/etc. - but studies have shown that people in cities get more and more "liberal" and less and less independent, more and more dependent on government and city services.

When we reach a breaking point with regards to water, food and energy, the cities are where the trouble will start. I intend to move further away when I retire.
 
wait, so after a collapse of society, the power structure will change? That seems kinda obvious.

Maybe if I prepare well enough, after the collapse I can become a local warlord and start a New Local Order. After a few raids maybe go for a New Regional Order. Work my way up.
 
While not insinuating anyone is wearing a chicken little hat, and definitely seeing "overpopulation" written on the wall of complex "coming soon" future problems after many excursions in the homeland and throughout the world, public urges and outcries of social enlightenment intended to curtail human excessiveness always seem to follow movies like What Happened to Monday , Children of the Decree, The Thinning, and yes, even Soylent Green (although moving back in years).
Unfortunately, the masses only become equally emphatic when personally deeply embroiled, which is generally too late for a painless correction.
So, who will be the first to live and promote a life of celibacy, or abort their god given new life in the name of over population? After you, we will only need about 100 million more selfless souls to make the dubious correction.
As horrific as Overpopulation may be envisioned by the creative mind; Like economic collapses, I stand with using a capitalistic analogy of 'Let the market correct itself" or "let the population correct itself".
Eventually, plague, war, environment, indirectly, will take its toll on population and usually more equitably THAN MAN directly playing god as to who lives and who does not.
 
Maybe you should prepare a better knowledge of reading and writing. Say perhaps the difference between their, there, and they're. At least then your memoirs won't be titled "ramblings of a sixth grade dropout".

Ok enough of being a grammar nazi.

I fundamentally agree with you, it's going to be a sad sorry world when the population hits 15 billion, probably in what's left of my lifetime. My plan is either get a boat and set foot on dry land as little as possible, or, move to one of the small communities in the middle of the state. Metropolitan areas are going to become crime ridden government controlled death camps. I am giving myself four more years to make the move.
 
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Maybe you should prepare a better knowledge of reading and writing. Say perhaps the difference between their, there, and they're. At least then your memoirs won't be titled "ramblings of a sixth grade dropout".

Ok enough of being a grammar nazi.

I fundamentally agree with you, it's going to be a sad sorry world when the population hits 15 billion, probably in what's left of my lifetime. My plan is either get a boat and set foot on dry land as little as possible, or, move to one of the small communities in the middle of the state. Metropolitan areas are going to become crime ridden government controlled death camps. I am giving myself four more years to make the move.
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Protein comes in many shapes and sizes and i am not religous or picky if I am hungry. We will all be eating things we would prefer not be as many did in the Ghettos of ww2 did. Hope it never comes to that in my lifetime. The question becomes at what price are you willing to survive and what will make you lay down and never get up again. None of us know those answers until we are confronted with the scenario.
 
I remember watching the pear orchards in southern Oregon get bulldozed during the 2003-2007 housing boom in order to develop them into subdivisions because the price of housing was going up so fast it was irresistible. I can't help but think how short-sighted that was now that those orchards and the food they produced are gone forever...

When my grandmother died in 1957 the farm in Witch Hazel that my dad grew up on was sold. It had kept them fed during the years of the Great Depression. After that we used to drive by it whenever we were in the area. It was the mid sixties and we hadn't driven out there in over a year and one half or so. It was no longer there and was a housing development now. Multiply that by thousands and thousands of acres of the best farmlands lost to housing.
 
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So, who will be the first to live and promote a life of celibacy, or abort their god given new life in the name of over population? After you, we will only need about 100 million more selfless souls to make the dubious correction.
As horrific as Overpopulation may be envisioned by the creative mind; Like economic collapses, I stand with using a capitalistic analogy of 'Let the market correct itself" or "let the population correct itself".
Eventually, plague, war, environment, indirectly, will take its toll on population and usually more equitably THAN MAN directly playing god as to who lives and who does not.

First, as noted, don't have to be celibate to not add to the population - unless you are a strict Catholic I guess.

Second, I decided decades ago that I did not want to be responsible for more than one child, so I refused to add more to the population when my (ex-)wife wanted more children.

Third, it will take a lot more than 100 million to put a dent in the growth curve. First world countries have already cut back on their growth. It is the third world countries that have to make progress in this area. OTOH, first world countries consume a LOT more resources per capita than third world countries.

Fourth, I am not and was not preaching about individuals doing something to slow down, much less stop, population growth - nowhere did I say that (I think). What I did say - more or less - is that this is an inevitable future outcome no matter what you do personally about the issue - there are just too many people that either don't care, or don't believe it is happening and that are not willing to give up their comforts to have any impact. Too many corporations and political leaders unwilling to give up power and profits.

I am saying, this is happening folks, pretty much no matter what you do - so prepare for it, because it isn't just going to happen, it IS happening as we talk about it, and it is gradually but inexorably getting worse. The sooner you prepare, the better off you will be - if not you, then those of your family who will be around when it gets really bad. Stop letting your 'handlers' tell you it isn't happening just because they don't want to be inconvenienced and their profits cut back. You can't stop human nature, but you can understand what is happening and where this is going and prepare for it.
 

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