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The Six12; Bullpup or attach to your rifle..........

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Chee-to, Feb 2, 2015.

  1. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Crye Precision premieres its underslung revolving shotgun, the Six12
    1/17/14 | by Jim Grant

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    Six shooter scatter gun, the Six12. (Photo by James Grant)

    The M-16 is no stranger to underslung shotguns. Marines and soldiers alike have been hooking 12-gauge Masterkeys underneath M-16s for years.

    The Masterkey system, an underslung pump-action Remington 870 with a short barrel and no stock, requires the user to remove his or her firing hand from the M-16 and place it on the magazine. This makes transitioning very tricky, especially when the shotgun needs to be racked between every shot. Also, the 870 Masterkey system is limited to only three rounds. The new Six12 underslung shotgun holds six rounds of ammo and can be manipulated with one hand, thanks to the double action revolving cylinder design.

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    The Six12 can be fitted underneath the barrel of any railed weapon platform. (Photo by James Grant)

    Crye Precision also offers the Six12 in a stand-alone model with an 18-inch barrel, which is excellent for users who want a more modern version of the 1980’s Street Sweeper combat shotgun. Think of the Six12 as a 12-gauge Taurus Judge where empty cylinders are quickly removed and replaced like magazines. The cylinder’s body is made of a high density synthetic material while the chambers are built from steel. The stand-alone model features 8-inches of Picatinny rail for mounting optics or iron sights. The Six12 is a lighter, more compact alternative to the Masterkey system and comes in any color you like, so long as that color is black.

    Neither an MSRP nor a release date were stated.
     
  2. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    They had it at shot show this year ago. still no word on availability though they have one with an integrated suppressor that is right out of Aliens.
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    I wonder how they contain the gasses as a revolver. Because that cheek rest on the bullpup version is right on the chamber.
     
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  3. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    That's cute but my Saiga 12 can kick its butt. ;)
     
  4. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Just remember that unless the shotgun has an 18" barrel it is an SBS.
     
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    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Is that the case when it mounts to another gun as its only configuration?
     
  6. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Shotgun = stock + 18" or longer barrel(s), 26"+ OAL
    SBS = smooth bore, barrel(s) less then 18" or OAL less then 26" and made from a shotgun
    AOW = smooth bore, barrel(s) less then 18" or OAL less then 26" and never been a shotgun
     
  7. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. It (or one of them anyway) is intended to be fired while mounted on a rifle. I vote AOW. $10 stamp too, IIRC.
     
  8. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    If it is attached to a rifle it is then intended to be fired from the shoulder. It would either need to have an 18" barrel to remain a "shotgun" or registered as an SBS to have a barrel under 18". If you attach an AOW under a "rifle" it becomes a SBS and would need to be registered as such.

    Transfer tax on AOW is $5, but making is still $200 like all others.
     
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  9. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    There is no way in hades I would want my hand that close to the muzzle when using it as a master key as shown under slung on a M4/16!
     
  10. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    So a project I did a bunch of engineering on a few years ago... the TX-12 ended up as a destructive device not a SBS/SBR, and from my understanding of tech branch, anything with a bore diameter over .5" and a length of less 18" is going to get the DD classification unless it can be fired in it's unmated configuration.

    http://www.tenxammo.com/tx-12.html

    There are two variants, one has a pistol grip and is an AOW, the other original configuration mounts close to the gun and and is a destructive device.

    I should also mention, the key design element of the TX-12 was weight, in it's original config the whole gun weighed 2.1lbs including mounts.
     
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