The Police are prepping. Are YOU?

[titsonritz]

Wouldn't the responsibility fall on the trainers to bring them up to snuff?

You can not train a POS into decency.

 

[sobo]

Lowering standards for new employees usually results in lower standards for existing employees. Why should you do your job thoroughly and with competence when others are allowed to lag?

Sure, it's just human nature to slack if there's no consequence to doing so (see socialism/communism).
But again, my post was purely in response to the IG article, and nothing more.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Don't worry, more proof is coming. One needs to look no further than the police chief, but feel free to defend "liberal hiring practices"

So now we have false dichotomies to contend with?

You can not train a POS into decency.

So you dismiss them, which is also the trainers responsibility

 

[Koda]

I dont see how 40% is acceptable or how lowering hiring standards did not contribute to this situation.
I might add that lowering the hiring standards also would unintentionally lower the training standards.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

I dont see how 40% is acceptable or how lowering hiring standards did not contribute to this situation.
I might add that lowering the hiring standards also would unintentionally lower the training standards.

Because it's a red herring, the reduction in requirements was:

Tadarrius Bean and Demetrius Haley both joined the force in 2020 as it was experiencing a major staffing crunch and had dropped a requirement that recruits have an associate's degree or 54 college credits, reports said.

Officers Desmond Mills, Jr., Emmitt Martin III and Justin Smith were hired before the department changed its requirement in 2018 to say recruits needed to have a full-time job for five years and would need to complete their associate's within four years, Action News 5 reported

Please explain to me how the actual reduction in requirements immediately makes them untrainable "POS" ?

ETA: "POS"? "POS's"? "POSS"

 

[Knobgoblin]

I've definitely had my professional standards lowered by constant turnover of new hires in my workplace. Not that my personal experience has any bearing on this situation. Merely one man's ability to understand how an industry in a rapid state of decline comes about.

 

[Cavedweller]

No, 40% of candidates hired as underperformers is not acceptable, but that's not what the IG article was inferring.
It clearly inferred that all of them were diversity hires, which was being entirely disengenuous.

Not quite. The IG post stated that the 5 were hired outside the department's usual hiring process. They did not go through the usual TESTING process. This appears to be unrelated to the relaxation of the department's educational requirements reported in the Fox article, if the IG post can be believed. Details.

 

[Koda]

Please explain to me how the actual reduction in requirements immediately makes them untrainable "POS" ?

lost me, I never said that.
All Im saying is that the lowering of standards will yield lower results.

 

[Nosferatu]

I've definitely had my professional standards lowered by constant turnover of new hires in my workplace. Not that my personal experience has any bearing on this situation. Merely one man's ability to understand how an industry in a rapid state of decline comes about.

I've come to an unspoken agreement with my employer; If you're going to pay me as little as possible, I'm going to do as little as possible.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

lost me, I never said that.
All Im saying is that the lowering of standards will yield lower results.

Yeah, my bad. Didn't mean to have that be a direct question to you, I was really just throwing it out there to anyone that might have an opinion on the issue

 

[fredball]

I doubt that, this is not a training issue, it is a personnel issue. These five never should have been cops, they were thugs being thugs

They have a narrative or script and they stick to it JMO

 

[albin25]

The police are buying dried beans, rice, toilet paper, and canned goods too?
It's no wonder prices are spiking

Wait... what?... OOHHH.... never mind

 

[Andesite]

Covers aren't everyone's taste, but this is one of my favorites

Thanks. I haven't seen that. That...is...awesome...

 

[Alexx1401]

Don't worry, more proof is coming. One needs to look no further than the police chief, but feel free to defend "liberal hiring practices"

Once again memories are amazingly short. Not sure where the idea that they lowed standards in 2018 came from. They may have lowed them yet again in 2018 but may forces were lowing them LONG before that. "Woke" did not suddenly start in 2018. This is the kind of thing people who want to ignore fact will use like stats. Don't want something to be true? Just find stat's to make it no longer true. Problem is of course facts are still facts. All 5 of those guys slipped through for a reason. Now the tax payers and the rest of the Cops there are going to pay dearly for this little screw up. Many who want to pretend this was a fluke? They can find all kinds of stats to tell them what they want to believe.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Not sure where the idea that they lowed standards in 2018 came from.

Shockingly enough from a news report (several in fact) that specifically states that they did:

Tadarrius Bean and Demetrius Haley both joined the force in 2020 as it was experiencing a major staffing crunch and had dropped a requirement that recruits have an associate's degree or 54 college credits, reports said.

Officers Desmond Mills, Jr., Emmitt Martin III and Justin Smith were hired before the department changed its requirement in 2018 to say recruits needed to have a full-time job for five years and would need to complete their associate's within four years, Action News 5 reported

So the thin line between being a good cop and these guys is only an AA degree of 54 college credits?

 

[Provincial]

I've come to an unspoken agreement with my employer; If you're going to pay me as little as possible, I'm going to do as little as possible.

Quote from a worker in the USSR:

"We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us."

 

[Provincial]

There were several comments about "responsibility" and "responsible" in this thread. All were related to Public Sector operations. Using those two words, or anything related to them, in relation to the Public Sector, is an oxymoron.

Response of a Public Sector employee when threatened with being held responsible for their actions:



If you have a problem with that, talk to my Union Rep.

 

[titsonritz]

Ex-officer texted photo of Tyre Nichols to others: Memphis Police

All 5 officers charged in Tyre Nichols' death removed or failed to activate their body-worn cameras. They were caught by a 'sky cop' camera installed to monitor crime hotspots.

Almost sounds like some premeditation was involved.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Ex-officer texted photo of Tyre Nichols to others: Memphis Police

All 5 officers charged in Tyre Nichols' death removed or failed to activate their body-worn cameras. They were caught by a 'sky cop' camera installed to monitor crime hotspots.

Almost sounds like some premeditation was involved.

Really too bad we don't have a name for this kind of behavior . . .

 

[Xaevian]

Really too bad we don't have a name for this kind of behavior . . .

You mean it's not white supremacy?