The lowly .380

oldcorpgunny

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Another question here please.

Don't most of the European police carry and shoot a .380 pistol and ONLY the military owns/shoots 9mm in Europe or did I remember an old story or post incorrectly from here or in my general WWWeb gun links?

I know that they carry and shoot different rifle calibers from what I remember.

Thanks again.

Cate
Most of my family live in Western Europe and Great Britain. My cousin, the retired "Bobby" informs me that most agencies have "up gunned" to 9MM because of the abundance of weaponry and ammo through NATO.
 

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I conceal carry either a Key-Tec .380 or a Ruger in .380. As I've stated too many times on this forum, I'm a fat guy and it's hard to conceal a Block on my person. The little "mouse" guns work well in my "Belly Band " holster. I am also an excellent shot with the little fellows. Besides, if I were to be unexpectedly jumped by a thug, the little .380 will function perfectly as hollow point suppositories.
 

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I conceal carry either a Key-Tec .380 or a Ruger in .380. As I've stated too many times on this forum, I'm a fat guy and it's hard to conceal a Block on my person. The little "mouse" guns work well in my "Belly Band " holster. I am also an excellent shot with the little fellows. Besides, if I were to be unexpectedly jumped by a thug, the little .380 will function perfectly as hollow point suppositories.
I'd rather shoot them out of a gun than insert them as suppositories personally, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
 
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Most of my family live in Western Europe and Great Britain. My cousin, the retired "Bobby" informs me that most agencies have "up gunned" to 9MM because of the abundance of weaponry and ammo through NATO.

Most of the 32 and 380 acp users transitioned in the 1990s. Italy municipal police were probably the biggest users of them. Still some holdouts in the far east, Various Japanese enforcement agencies issued sig 230/232 series pistols to plain cloths officers. I've seen a photos of Japanese MHLW agents (similar to the DEA in practice) clearly armed with Beretta Cheetah Series pistol.

Are bobbies largely famously unarmed (except for North Ireland)? The British do love there mass surveillance though...
 

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Most of the 32 and 380 acp users transitioned in the 1990s. Italy municipal police were probably the biggest users of them. Still some holdouts in the far east, Various Japanese enforcement agencies issued sig 230/232 series pistols to plain cloths officers. I've seen a photos of Japanese MHLW agents (similar to the DEA in practice) clearly armed with Beretta Cheetah Series pistol.

Are bobbies largely famously unarmed (except for North Ireland)? The British do love there mass surveillance though...
My cousin has since retired from the Metropolitan Police Force in London. He swore that he wouldn't carry a firearm and it seems that he never did. Yes, they were the ones that were famous for being unarmed. He took me into Scotland Yard once, to visit with some of the cops there. They all seemed amazed that Americans had so many firearms.
 
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My cousin has since retired from the Metropolitan Police Force in London. He swore that he wouldn't carry a firearm and it seems that he never did. Yes, they were the ones that were famous for being unarmed. He took me into Scotland Yard once, to visit with some of the cops there. They all seemed amazed that Americans had so many firearms.

Ironically the RUC/PSNI was one of the most militarized police forces in Europe. Machine Guns, MRAPS, you name it they have it. I believe in the course of 30 years they lost like 300 officers (mostly to IEDS).
 
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My cousin has since retired from the Metropolitan Police Force in London. He swore that he wouldn't carry a firearm and it seems that he never did. Yes, they were the ones that were famous for being unarmed. He took me into Scotland Yard once, to visit with some of the cops there. They all seemed amazed that Americans had so many firearms.
Hello,

Did your cousin carry a LE type of a baton or wooden club of some type?

Was he anti gun for only when he was working - on the job as a peace officer or was he 'anti gun' all of the time for all of his life or in a specific age range?

Did he carry a pocket knife on him as a peace officer or when he was off work when the UK was not so ANTI KNIFE?

Thank you.

Cate
 

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