The front fell off

[Alexx1401]

I don't get why people would want to push the envelope with that round,, isn't it already more powerful than most people can competently handle in the first place?

Damn good question. The round is already a cannon but I guess some have that Tim the Tool Man thing going? Got to be bigger no matter what? I noticed he was acting like he was really expecting a huge deal so have to wonder if he had not already fired some loads that were well above book. That one the gun just said no more.

 

[RVTECH]

I don't get why people would want to push the envelope with that round,,

Or any round for that matter but some people are fascinated with massive recoil and report.

Over my years of shooting and reloading I have occasionally 'encountered' some of these types and kept my distance....

 

[titsonritz]

I wonder how many guns Elmer Keith blew up.

 

[The Heretic]

I don't get why people would want to push the envelope with that round,, isn't it already more powerful than most people can competently handle in the first place?

I don't know about .500 mag, but .460 mag seemed quite controllable to me.

 

[RVTECH]

I wonder how many guns Elmer Keith blew up.

I wonder how many guns blow up now we never hear about...

 

[titsonritz]

I don't know about .500 mag, but .460 mag seemed quite controllable to me.

Make a lot more sense to me also, better ballistics and being able to shoot .454 Casull, .45 Colt, .45 Schofield.

 

[titsonritz]

A .460 S&W wheel gun and lever gun would be a heck of lot of whoopass. I'm good topping out at .44 mag in that combination (more rounds in the lever gun, too.)

 

[The Heretic]

A .460 S&W wheel gun and lever gun would be a heck of lot of whoopass. I'm good topping out at .44 mag in that combination (more rounds in the lever gun, too.)

Yeah, for a while I thought about getting a BHA lever gun in .460, but I don't really have a practical use for it. I already have a .45-70 Marlin. Also, the BHA would not feed .45LC from the mag, might feed .454.

I don't really have a need for .45-70 either, my BLR in .308 is about all I will ever need, but I wouldn't mind hunting a bison with the .45-70 Marlin.

 

[kmk1012]

I have both a 500 and 460 X-Frame revolvers in the same barrel length. Not bad recoil for the most part. Could have been Grizzly brand ammo. I bought some and they were so hot the cases stuck every time. They sent me replacement boxes but same thing. I'll never trust that brand.
Also, when I first got my 500 an "experienced" shooter wanted to shoot it. I told him to go ahead. He wasn't a big guy and couldn't grip it well and under the recoil of the first trigger pull it sent a second round up at a 45deg angle. Was a double, he never knew it but I heard it and stopped him to verify, yep only 3 rounds left. That was my first knowledge of it. From now on when someone asks to shoot it, they get a single round.

 

[titsonritz]

Also, when I first got my 500 an "experienced" shooter wanted to shoot it. I told him to go ahead. He wasn't a big guy and couldn't grip it well and under the recoil of the first trigger pull it sent a second round up at a 45deg angle. Was a double, he never knew it but I heard it and stopped him to verify, yep only 3 rounds left. That was my first knowledge of it. From now on when someone asks to shoot it, they get a single round.

People have died doing that...
https://www.mrcolionnoir.com/woman-...ng-herself-in-the-head-at-missouri-gun-range/

 

[kmk1012]

People have died doing that...
https://www.mrcolionnoir.com/woman-...ng-herself-in-the-head-at-missouri-gun-range/

That's what I found out after it happened. Hence the reason for my hard rule.

 

[titsonritz]

That's what I found out after it happened. Hence the reason for my hard rule.

I have a friend that bought a Ruger Super Redhawk .44 mag with a stupid light trigger pull, I told him to single load or skip every other chamber when he first took it out, it turned out to be a good idea. Also told him he should put the stock springs back in the gun and call it a day.

 

[Ruger Rich]

I wonder how many guns Elmer Keith blew up.

Wondered that myself. After reading old stories about the old guys I'm guessing a few.

 

[Boboclown]

The most I ever want to push is +P .45 colt (which I don't even need, just sneeze at the bears in NC and they'll run away), I don't want to imagine what even hotter .500 S&W will do.

 

[whiskeybill]

A real head scratcher here. Looks like no damage to the top strap of the action, which is normally from an overzealous load. Couldn't see the cylinder, but looks like the yoke just cam unlocked and swung out. The barrel just left the frame. Kinda cool. A guy showed me a picture of a S&W 629 Mountain gun that he hatched. He was shooting CorBon loads. First thing I asked him was if the loads were for a revolver or carbine / rifle. That can make a big difference.

 

[DunRanull]

Know your meme. "The front fell off."

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An alternative front-end to YouTube

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Sounds like a Monty Python skit!

 

[DunRanull]

It looks like an S&W 500 to me.

Yep, it do...

 

[Boboclown]

What's the story with this gun? What gun is it? Was cause determined? Looks like factory ammo box on table. Could have had reloads in the box though.
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Does anybody recognize the ammo box and does that one bullet on the table standing upright look like factory loads for that box (vs home made reload)?
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Factory loads. Also above 0 chance barrel was overtorqued, was hoping someone else would have chimed in but at this point I haven't seen any other answer.

No thank you with the pressures involved in 500 S&W, .460, or 454, just too high for me. Ruger .480 out of a Super Redhawk fits the bill at big bore with low pressure. Ruger put extra steel right where that broke for a reason on the Super Redhawk.

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That's less to do with the round and more to do with the original redhawks also having problems with overtorqued barrels leading to the "front fell off" scenario so to speak. By the time the super redhawk came out they changed the lube they used and no more overtorqued barrels, mostly (I mean if you pump thousands and thousands of guns out I'd imagine something slips by eventually).

I don't know about .500 mag, but .460 mag seemed quite controllable to me.

Allegedly .460 recoils a bit more but idk. I need to get a snub nose in both to test this out.

 

[The Heretic]

Factory loads. Also above 0 chance barrel was overtorqued, was hoping someone else would have chimed in but at this point I haven't seen any other answer.

That's less to do with the round and more to do with the original redhawks also having problems with overtorqued barrels leading to the "front fell off" scenario so to speak. By the time the super redhawk came out they changed the lube they used and no more overtorqued barrels, mostly (I mean if you pump thousands and thousands of guns out I'd imagine something slips by eventually).

Allegedly .460 recoils a bit more but idk. I need to get a snub nose in both to test this out.

Mine was a 460V - a 4-5" barrel with comp on the end; 4" rifling/barrel, 1" comp. Much more controllable/pleasant than my 329PD with even just .44 Special loads, but it weighed 2X+ as much too - so there is that also.

 

[kmk1012]

Factory loads. Also above 0 chance barrel was overtorqued, was hoping someone else would have chimed in but at this point I haven't seen any other answer.

That's less to do with the round and more to do with the original redhawks also having problems with overtorqued barrels leading to the "front fell off" scenario so to speak. By the time the super redhawk came out they changed the lube they used and no more overtorqued barrels, mostly (I mean if you pump thousands and thousands of guns out I'd imagine something slips by eventually).

Allegedly .460 recoils a bit more but idk. I need to get a snub nose in both to test this out.

I have both a 460 and a 500 and I can assure you that the 500 wins every contest in the recoil dept.