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the difficulty with the BLM is its really a movement rather than an organization. BLM organizers let anyone operate autonomously under their name independently so they've had many of their protests turn violent as it makes it hard to stop individuals from misunderstanding and operating on their own tangent or formulating their own agenda like the Dallas shooter. I think if they would organize officially they could do good for the idea of racial equality but it seems like they've started off on the wrong foot.

The lady that started it is a well spoken and educated woman.

I agree, if they stuck with her original intent then there wouldn't be as much hoopla going on & possibly it would be a positive thing instead of dividing the country even more then it already is.
 
Aldous Huxley : the man who gave drug-driven utopias a bad name

"Maybe this world is another planet's hell."
ALDOUS HUXLEY
1894 - 1963

"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution-then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise."
ALDOUS HUXLEY
I believe extasy was intended to fill that niche.
 
Sounds like Psychohistory, a fictional science in Isaac Asimov's Foundation universe which combines history, sociology, and mathematical statistics to make general predictions about the future behavior of very large groups of people, such as the Galactic Empire.
 
^^^. Didn't the British Regulars attempt to disarm the Colonists? Weren't the Redcoats headed out to where they understood the cache of arms was stored? How'd that work out for them?

What makes the leftist, liberal and socialistic leaders of today believe it'd go any differently? Do they really believe there wouldn't be resistance?

They woke the sleeping giant with their ramrodding transgender bathrooms and initiatives down conservatives throats and the conservatives revolted at the ballot box...

Me thinks they aren't prepared for the wrath that would come with an attempted disarmament...

They'll need to work other ways, mandatory insurance, taxes and fees coupled with strangulation of ammo supplies... It's the only practicle way it could possibly be done..
 
^^^. Didn't the British Regulars attempt to disarm the Colonists? Weren't the Redcoats headed out to where they understood the cache of arms was stored? How'd that work out for them?

What makes the leftist, liberal and socialistic leaders of today believe it'd go any differently? Do they really believe there wouldn't be resistance?

They woke the sleeping giant with their ramrodding transgender bathrooms and initiatives down conservatives throats and the conservatives revolted at the ballot box...

Me thinks they aren't prepared for the wrath that would come with an attempted disarmament...

They'll need to work other ways, mandatory insurance, taxes and fees coupled with strangulation of ammo supplies... It's the only practicle way it could possibly be done..

Most folks are sheeple, they'll just go along with whatever.

Even if you include the general hidden noncompliance in the non-free states, the current regulations in them have about eliminated the next generations of "gun culture"...
 
Most folks are sheeple, they'll just go along with whatever.

Even if you include the general hidden noncompliance in the non-free states, the current regulations in them have about eliminated the next generations of "gun culture"...

I would like to think that some of the younger generation will smarten up over time. Take my son and some of his friends for instance. They like to go out and camp, shoot and talk smack just like we did as kids. Over time hopefully they will realize that nothing comes for free and they will see the errors of there way.

We can only hope!:confused:
 
I would like to think that some of the younger generation will smarten up over time. Take my son and some of his friends for instance. They like to go out and camp, shoot and talk smack just like we did as kids. Over time hopefully they will realize that nothing comes for free and they will see the errors of there way.

We can only hope!:confused:

Oh I agree, in the free states. Probably pretty rare in the non-free though.
 
The lady that started it is a well spoken and educated woman.

I agree, if they stuck with her original intent then there wouldn't be as much hoopla going on & possibly it would be a positive thing instead of dividing the country even more then it already is.

Yeah? The movement is radical black viewpoint and it has clearly followed her own words:

The Creation of a Movement
"I created #BlackLivesMatter with Patrisse Cullors and Opal Tometi, two of my sisters, as a call to action for Black people after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was post-humously placed on trial for his own murder and the killer, George Zimmerman, was not held accountable for the crime he committed. It was a response to the anti-Black racism that permeates our society and also, unfortunately, our movements."


"Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks' contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression."
 
Yeah? The movement is radical black viewpoint and it has clearly followed her own words:

The Creation of a Movement
"I created #BlackLivesMatter with Patrisse Cullors and Opal Tometi, two of my sisters, as a call to action for Black people after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was post-humously placed on trial for his own murder and the killer, George Zimmerman, was not held accountable for the crime he committed. It was a response to the anti-Black racism that permeates our society and also, unfortunately, our movements."


"Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks' contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression."

I don't personally read that as a hostile statement or call for harm to others.


It's obviously a Black movement but I'm not so sure the intent is for radical action.

Affermation is what all people seek.
 
I don't personally read that as a hostile statement or call for harm to others.


It's obviously a Black movement but I'm not so sure the intent is for radical action.

Affermation is what all people seek.

Affermation (lol) of a skewed viewpoint is what is driving people to radical action. Rioting, police shootings, etc. Maybe she didn't directly call for that or even wanted it, but it is very similar to Rev. Wright saying damn America, Obummer blaming LEOs, or the press jumping all over Trump.

edit: " as a call to action for Black people after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was post-humously placed on trial for his own murder and the killer, George Zimmerman, was not held accountable for the crime he committed. It was a response to the anti-Black racism that permeates our society and also, unfortunately, our movements."

"Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks' contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression."

These are ugly words and untrue. Yelling fire in a theater.
IMO, one cannot be divorced from the results of the ideology one spews. We have racial divide worse than ever. Some people will act on all the false narrative and rhetoric. I'm tired of it all the way around.
 
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Maybe it was intended to be a good thing but has turned into a bad like so many things. Even with the best of intentions you get dumb bubblegummers that jump on the band wagon that are to stupid to understand the true reasoning behind something. Those are the same people that usually take things to the next level and make it even worse.

This is the same reason that a lot of people don't stand up for anything anymore. People take things and twist them and make the original intent a thought so far from peoples minds that you might as well not even started it in the first place. So what do you do not fight for what is right in fear that something like this could happen or fight for what you believe in.

We have all seen this happen to something in our lives.

Just for the record I'm not saying the BLM is right or wrong just throwing a thought out.
 
I have no dog in the fight, I was just making a statement.

I obviously do not think it has been implemented well nor do I agree with what's going on now.

I also think we are isolated from a lot of it living in the PNW. The south and east is almost like a different country in a lot of regards.


I didn't make the statements I did to start another ur wrong debate, and anything in writing can be inturpidid differently by different people - look at how convoluted the Bible gets between sects that use it...
 
BLM has been co-opted by the alt left to be their hammer and gong in the streets and muscle where they think it will help.

Funding comes from "anonymous" sources and the leaders have no more control over the individual mobs that may or may not riot than a cat trying to ride a dog.

Are there bad shootings, inevitably because people are human, make mistakes or just plain mean, are there justifiable shootings? Yes. Do certain police departments need to be held to higher standards? Yes. Do young black men need more opportunities than drugs and gang banging? Certainly.

Does white privilege exist? Yes, in this manner: in every war we have fought going back to 1776 the majority of soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines paying the ultimate price has been white. Thats the only white privilege I believe exists.

When a group uses race to define right or wrong it is a slippery slope. I think BLM because of the hate some of them spew has done far more to hurt their cause than help it.

Using minorities or social injustice in some cases must be recognized as a time for society to change but also that there are people in power that care less about the ideals of a movement. They want to use it to gain more power. Never trust the politician who wants you to distrust your fellow Americans. be vigilant, be prepared, be neighborly and be civil. Money says you well know when it's time to try a different tack.

Brutus Out
 
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The gun control groups are doing it to save lives and stop gun violence too....
Nothing unethical about that right...?



The blm movement started in response to Zimmerman then Brown. Neither were an example of racial profiling. Read the Zimmerman trial outcome...
 

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