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Sorry about that. I just tried to change and Can't. I read about half way through it and honestly did not finish it. It's pretty long. Sorry for the wrong alphabet agency. You are more than welcome to edit the title since I can't.This appears to be a proposal by the DOJ and not an actual definition change by the ATF. If so, the thread title is misleading.
Seems like the big changes are that 80% parts need to go via an FFL and AR uppers are now, also, serialized. I expect a fight.115 pages. What's the actual proposed new definition and rule?
Good catch I will look into it further. I have heard they consider some uppers (maybe 50bmg single shot) as firearms.^ Maybe not, see the section beginning on page 81.
It would appear that most AR uppers are safe for now but this statement on page 83 worries me:
This is another orgs take on the BATF's decision to classify some AR uppers as firearms:It would appear that most AR uppers are safe for now but this statement on page 83 worries me:
"Director may determine whether a specific part or parts of a weapon is the frame or receiver, which may include an internal frame or chassis at least partially exposed to the exterior to allow identification."
Who is the Director? Could the Director decide one day he thinks uppers should be considered a firearm as well? Is their anything preventing the ATF from listing two parts designed to work together as one firearm from being classified as two firearms? What would the process be for the Director to reclassify uppers as firearms too?
The example that comes to mind is this upper: https://safetyharborfirearms.com/product/shtf-50-mag-fed-upper-conversion/
I am not sure who decided this SHTF50 upper was a firearm or what the process was? It seems like they could easily make the argument that standard AR15 uppers are firearms too, especially with under the new proposed rules.
ATF Ponders Changing Definition of What Is a Firearm To Target Growing Gun Diversity
The ATF reasons that anyone can finish an 80% frame or even 3D print one, but most of the general public do not possess the tools to complete a slide.www.ammoland.com
This statement on page 32 seems to contradictory to what they have done with the SHTF50 Upper.:
"One important goal of this rule is to ensure that it does not affect existing ATF classifications of firearms that specify a single component as the frame or receiver. Application of the rule, as proposed, would not alter these prior ATF classifications."