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OFF ALERT The Death Of The Gun Lobby

Discussion in 'Oregon Firearms Federation' started by Northwest Firearms, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. Northwest Firearms

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    Today, in numerous places, a story by Associated Press reporter, Jonathan Cooper, appeared about the “turning tide” of gun control. Some quotes follow:

    “It’s long been conventional wisdom that fighting for gun control is a good way to end a politician’s career.But advocates of tighter gun laws are pointing to a pair of victories in the Pacific Northwest as evidence that the tide may be shifting.”

    “We are seeing it again and again, that this is actually a winning issue and you can vote to protect the American public and make the American public safe, and your political career will flourish,” said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety, an advocacy group backed by millions from billionaire Michael Bloomberg, the former New York mayor.

    One might conclude that the end is near for supporters of the Second Amendment, especially when coupled with some other quotes from Willamette Week and Rolling Stone Magazine .

    From a Willamette Week cover:

    “Oregon gun lobbyists know they must change their ways or become a dying breed” and “…state gun lobbyists are finding themselves on the defensive”

    In the same story, they quote a local NRA lobbyist:

    “After last week, he sees tougher times ahead. ‘This is my most difficult session” he says. “We’ve never had these outside forces before.”


    Another gun lobbyist is quoted as saying “It’s become painfully clear we’re not going to win the public relations battle.”

    In a separate Willamette Week edition with the headline “Under Fire…The NRA is taking hits from foes and friends alike.” they state:

    “Not long ago the National Rifle Association was arguably the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill, but lately it just doesn’t seem to be able to strike fear into the hearts of politicians.”

    “For the NRA ,the political terrain is changing all too radically. For decades the organization has successfully blocked even modest gun control laws. But now the climate of fear and intimidation it created is crumbling and gun control groups are talking optimistically about chances for bans on semi-automatic assault weapons and gun possession by minors.” “In fact, legal scholars have repeatedly pointed out that the (2nd) amendment contains no substantial barriers to federal, state or local gun control laws.”


    A Rolling Stone article reported:

    “But despite the enduring pathology of gun worship, it’s clear to everyone, even the NRA-that the political ground is shifting in the most gun glutted nation on earth. New Jersey, Connecticut, Minnesota and Virginia all enacted gun control legislation this year.” This was followed by :

    “Campaigning in New Jersey…in October, Hillary Clinton said “We’ve got the gun lobby and the NRA on the run.”


    It would certainly seem that supporters of gun rights are losing their battles and our best days are behind us.

    Except consider this, the first set of quotes from Willamette Week are from an article published in April of 1999!

    The second set were published in February of 1994!

    The Rolling Stone quotes are from December of 1993!

    The fact is, that while Oregon suffered a serious setback in 2015 with the passage of a bill paid for by a New York billionaire, the reports of the demise of the pro-gun forces are, to say the least, premature.

    The AP article linked above said: “Last year in Washington, voters overwhelmingly supported mandatory background checks on private gun sales. Lawmakers in Oregon approved similar legislation this year, and last week it became clear there wouldn’t be political consequences.”

    Of course what the author left out is that, much like in Oregon, Washington’s law is largely ignored and unenforced, and to suggest that Oregon’s law comes with “no political consequence” simply ignores what we pointed out to the writer; the fact that most counties have expressed opposition to the law and several counties, including both in Prozanski’s district, have said they will not enforce it. Sheriff’s all over the state have stated the law is pointless, probably not constitutional and will not be enforced by them. It’s pretty hard to not see that as a “political consequence.”

    Most of the rest of the country is moving towards more pro-gun legislation. The Oregon legislature’s hard left rudder to attack the rights of Oregonians is hardly the last word in this matter. Remember, not a single Republican voted for SB 941, and while left wing extremists control the legislature right now, the pendulum always swings. Look at this article from 2006.

    The fact is, that while Oregon liberals did succumb to the dollars waved under their noses, it came at enormous expense to them and, while they can claim victory for the bill’s passage, it will have little impact on people’s behavior.

    In spite of what the lapdog media says, pro-gun forces are not going away.

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  2. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Saw this and the Pro gun people had better get off their butts and counter the media BS. It is getting out of control and too many supposed pro gun people have compromised far too much and sat on their azzes even longer. This is a tsunami that they are trying to hit the 2nd Amendment with and it is so far beyond time to fight back in earnest.
    If you think someone else will do this for you, then you should go out and get a shovel and dig your own hole to bury the Constitution and then go in there with it.

    The OFF article lays it out pretty well. They are on the attack and emboldened with the BS stories like this, and if "YOU" (and that means you that talk but never vote or get out and raise your voice) do not stand now you will most definitely fall before long.

    I am 70 ys old and by all that is holy,
    I have never seen such a sorry bunch of people out there that call themselves citizens. Yeah citizens without a voice and never bother to vote. You have to live with shame.


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  3. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    here's my rant:

    I vote. I just won't vote for evil, lesser it may seem.

    Many others may and complain that I won't but that's because I'm principled and my character won't allow it. They attack my principles and character in attempts to place blame upon me for the loss of freedom.

    I'm above that and know they're the problem as they're unprincipled and lack character. Moreover, freedom was lost before the candidates were even put upon the ballot.

    It was lost the day freedom morphed to a privilege and any politician with the balls to give it back to the people certainly isn't going to make it on the ballot when they are dependent upon so many unprincipled and low character voters to get there.

  4. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    The 2nd Amendment deserves nothing less. !
  5. rlgdestroyu

    rlgdestroyu Free Republic of Everett Member

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    I love that these politicians swear an oath, which means something to most, and they turn around and take a dump on it. In general I'm tired of all government.
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  6. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    Stories like this make me think about what the Nazi propaganda must have been like back in the 30's. People will believe most anything they read, hear, see on TV, or find on the internet.

    Shameful that so many people let others form their views and opinions for them.

    I don't know who said it but, "All that is required for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."
    Seems like a pretty relevant quote for our situation these days.
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  7. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is how they have got to where they are. Also people compromise on who they vote for and vote for some socialist just because of one fricken issue. We must vote hardcore right or concede to losing the nation and frankly I won't go there.
    Socialism , Marxism, and Communism need to be incinerated totally or we lose.
    Time for compromise went away 40 years ago, and they just slam us with more every time people have compromised. It is truly time to backtrack and take it back by what ever means necessary. What a sorry damned state the country has ended up in. I hope the games and self orientated BS was all worth losing the country over. That is what people have done.
    Ostriches have more intelligence.
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  8. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    When bummer was elected they declared the death of the repubs now the repubs hold the majority. Oregonians have just begun the fight against progressive gun controls:mad: