This thread is not meant to be a Open vs Concealed discussion !!
Do not go on about social mores and general attitudes that horsepucky has been covered elsewhere.
Can someone specifically tell me IF in the Oregon Statutes or the CHL paperwork it defines "Concealed". In other Open vs Conc. threads people including LEO's get stuck on the 'Concealed' part of Concealed Handgun License. I have looked through ORS166.xx and it's definitions and can not find a "concealed means: a reasonable attempt to blahblahblah" anywhere.
I understand ORS 166.170 preemption clause. IE: Beaverton's open carry ban does not override Oregon state law.
Except that ORS 166.173 gives cities or counties the authority to regulate loaded firearms in public places, but section (2)(c) says 'does not apply to CHL holders'.
So that means Beavertons ban does not apply to said CHL holder. Period.
And with Beaverton's ban voided then Oregon's open carry law takes preemption with that person ???
If so does 'Concealed' really go back to the ability to carry in a way that is restricted under other Statutes? IE: in car, hidden on person, AND Oregon's open carry law is still in affect in all other areas.
So then when it comes to PDX or Beaverton a CHL does not mean you have to 'conceal', it means the local policy is preempted and open carry IS the law for that person? (Right or Wrong - not the point of this thread)
Do not go on about social mores and general attitudes that horsepucky has been covered elsewhere.
Can someone specifically tell me IF in the Oregon Statutes or the CHL paperwork it defines "Concealed". In other Open vs Conc. threads people including LEO's get stuck on the 'Concealed' part of Concealed Handgun License. I have looked through ORS166.xx and it's definitions and can not find a "concealed means: a reasonable attempt to blahblahblah" anywhere.
I understand ORS 166.170 preemption clause. IE: Beaverton's open carry ban does not override Oregon state law.
Except that ORS 166.173 gives cities or counties the authority to regulate loaded firearms in public places, but section (2)(c) says 'does not apply to CHL holders'.
So that means Beavertons ban does not apply to said CHL holder. Period.
And with Beaverton's ban voided then Oregon's open carry law takes preemption with that person ???
If so does 'Concealed' really go back to the ability to carry in a way that is restricted under other Statutes? IE: in car, hidden on person, AND Oregon's open carry law is still in affect in all other areas.
So then when it comes to PDX or Beaverton a CHL does not mean you have to 'conceal', it means the local policy is preempted and open carry IS the law for that person? (Right or Wrong - not the point of this thread)