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Thanks. I didn't get the 'anything we missed is banned too'.
This bill/law is by far the most comprehensive, offensive, and ambitious gun bill ever passed. It bans EVERYTHING. There are now guns that are legal in California and Canada, but not here. And good luck finding an FFL that will process a Garand. The way the law is written, many could argue that the enbloc clip is a "Detachable magazine" with the absolutely stupid definition they have written.

Side note/rant
As an American, I am offended that I wouldn't be able to order a garand from the CMP. I sincerely hope Inslee, Ferguson, and the lot of them broil in hell.
 
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Yes, unless this is repealed this is the end of firearm ownership and businesses in WA. It's a flagrant disregard for the US constitution and 2A and it'll be a travesty and a harbinger of bad things to come if allowed to stand.
 
Detachable mag = no go.
It doesn't say that. It can have a detachable mag, even able to accept a high capacity mag, as long as it doesn't have any "features". A Mini-14 with nothing on the end of the barrel could be made to comply with the law, if the heat shield was removed.

A Remington 7400 is legal with it's detachable mag. A M-14 clone with a bare muzzle and no heat shield would also qualify, as long as the name wasn't "Springfield M1A".

The way the law is written, many could argue that the enbloc clip is a "Detachable magazine" with the absolutely stupid definition they have written.
The Garand clip isn't a "feeding device". The M1 has a very obvious and fixed magazine. There is no way that would stick.


Retailers are being cautious right now, but that will ebb as the lure of lucrative "almost AW" sales takes back over.
 
It doesn't say that. It can have a detachable mag, even able to accept a high capacity mag, as long as it doesn't have any "features". A Mini-14 with nothing on the end of the barrel could be made to comply with the law, if the heat shield was removed.
I agree but also think some clarification is going to need rendering re. what is a "barrel shroud." Meaning, what was the legislature thinking, did they envision an ordinary "hand guard"? Or were they thinking, the aftermarket accessory metal device with holes in it that extends to the muzzle? The interpretation of this would decide whether a Mini 14 is or isn't included. And if it's the former, then an easy work-around would be to delete the hand guard. The early, full wooden hand guards don't look evil; the later plastic ones with holes do so this may govern the outcome of interpretative efforts.

Obviously, a Mini 14 or Ranch Rifle fitted with a flash suppressor or folding stock would not be legal for transfer.

The .30 M1 US Carbine is in the same category. With the same question of "hand guard" or "barrel shroud" hanging over it. The Carbine hand guard doesn't have the holes and lacks the same appearance of the later Mini 14 hand guard.

I'm sure some money will be spent in court figuring this out.
 
Or were they thinking, the aftermarket accessory metal device with holes in it that extends to the muzzle?
Unlike some other bans, this one seems to be somewhat thoughtfully focused on how guns are used, rather than how they look. The law defines a handguard as something that goes over the top of the barrel to shield the shooter's hand from rapid fire, and that's pretty much what a traditional military rifle's handguard does.

1240 dropped purely aesthetic stuff like the '94 ban on bayonet lugs. It seems very focused on function. Got to get those functional handguards off and display some barrel.
 
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I agree but also think some clarification is going to need rendering re. what is a "barrel shroud."
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It's a shoulder thing. That goes up.
 
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Just bubbleguming go away, Muppet.
I agree but also think some clarification is going to need rendering re. what is a "barrel shroud."


It's a shoulder thing. That goes up.
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It doesn't say that. It can have a detachable mag, even able to accept a high capacity mag, as long as it doesn't have any "features". A Mini-14 with nothing on the end of the barrel could be made to comply with the law, if the heat shield was removed.

A Remington 7400 is legal with it's detachable mag. A M-14 clone with a bare muzzle and no heat shield would also qualify, as long as the name wasn't "Springfield M1A".


The Garand clip isn't a "feeding device". The M1 has a very obvious and fixed magazine. There is no way that would stick.


Retailers are being cautious right now, but that will ebb as the lure of lucrative "almost AW" sales takes back over.
The en bloc clip can be loaded while outside of the rifle. The rifle is semiautomatic and has a wooden shroud that covers the top and the bottom of the barrel. Sad but true.
 
The en bloc clip can be loaded while outside of the rifle. The rifle is semiautomatic and has a wooden shroud that covers the top and the bottom of the barrel. Sad but true.
And a clip isn't a magazine. A clip isn't a "feeding device". A Garand doesn't have a clip instead of a magazine. It has a very clear magazine, that magazine is fixed, and it holds no more than 10 rounds. No one is going to accept that the Garand has a magazine in a magazine.

You might as well call a moon clip a magazine.
 
And a clip isn't a magazine. A clip isn't a "feeding device". A Garand doesn't have a clip instead of a magazine. It has a very clear magazine, that magazine is fixed, and it holds no more than 10 rounds. No one is going to accept that the Garand has a magazine in a magazine.

You might as well call a moon clip a magazine.
You don't like the language the legislation contains so you make up your own. Got it.
 
You don't like the language the legislation contains so you make up your own. Got it.
The language of the legislation refers to a fixed, feeding device as a magazine. No amount of creativity turns a clip into a magazine.

Why not worry they will ban all guns everywhere instead of worrying that a clip is actually a magazine in disguise?
 

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