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technology going to be added to new guns

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Just Jim, Sep 23, 2015.

  1. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    " One idea slowly garnishing interest and influence is GPS tracking in guns. This is not a new idea. The federal government has been experimenting with using wireless Nano and GPS technologies to track, disrupt, and even self-destruct firearms for at least two years. The project – known as micro-electromechanical system (MEMS) – utilizes Nano devices created by engineers that can affect a weapon’s operation. MEMS capabilities could be built into U.S. weapons within three to five years and the market for this technology would be around $1.1 billion dollars, Bloomberg Businessweek reported."

    (Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...
     
  2. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    I love technology.

    Optional free market technology.
     
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  3. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Problem by the way it looks and bloomers involved they will require this technology in new guns for safety reasons just like the tech required in new cars. Old guns are really going up in value if this crap starts in the next four years.
     
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  4. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    Where was this technology during fast and furious.
     
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  5. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Actually, they tried it in the previous, failed program that was its predecessor. The technology failed (among other things) and the operation was found ineffective and shut down. A new one, with the name you know, was inexplicably started up without the needed better tracking hardware (in fact none at all) and no better trailing methods. Hence the spectacular failure that eventually, after some remarkably relentless reporting, made the news. The fact that they never arrested one high-level drug trafficker - the stated goal of the program - may not have been enough to make headlines, but finding the walked guns at the scenes of the murders of about 150 Mexican Nationals and on one US BP agent must have helped.
     
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  6. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Probably be like the energy companies this admin has poured billions into. They will bilk the govt out of billions and run.
    No current gun manufacterers will want to sink money into this. It will cost millions and will never work, costing even more losses as the guns need repeated repairs.

    Or maybe that's their plan. Make these companies do it through legislation and then they will go bankrupt trying to make it work
     
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  7. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Electrical shock treatment will take care of that.
     
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  8. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    and they will never retrofit the 350 millon firearms in private hands now so its a total waste of time and treasure
     
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  9. balaperdida

    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    No. The govt will just declare all the low-tech guns illegal and confiscate them.
     
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  10. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Probably be like old automobiles, as the parts run out it will just be the old classics left in the hands of the rich.

    Don't like the idea someone else has the ability to stop your gun from working. Hackers or foreign government could make you defensless. Or even our own government could hit the switch and stop them all from working.
     
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  11. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Yeah, on the idiot politicians!!!!
     
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  12. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Let em - software and electronic junk is much easier to hack then mechanical items.

    This wont happen because they will spend a trillion dollars we already dont have, only to find out a 12 year old with an xbox can hack the new tech...
     
  13. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Without a power source it cant be done. A chip, sure but you cant find it if kept within a metal container/cage.. And even then, its slow to "find" the firearm.

    And to force someone to "charge" something would be a tax on firearm ownership and could not stand up in court. If I choose to live a life without power, my only means of defense should not have to be "charged".
    What if you forgot to charge it?
    Would it hinder the function of the firearm? I see HUGE lawsuits opening if that was the case.
     
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  14. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    I still like the 2 or 3 million volt static charge idea EG
     
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  15. Diamondback

    Diamondback A cold, wet green Hell Well-Known Member

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    Three words: "Build From Blanks." Start with an 80% PCR, or 0% raw forging, and in the law's eyes it's just a hunk of scrapmetal--no firearm legally exists until YOU complete the last step to make it an assembly-ready receiver, and you don't even have to mark it unless you decide to sell or gift it later.

    EDIT: And thus, nobody knows the weapon you built from it exists until any "public unveiling" happens. A cynical sort might even buy one or two "expendable" cheapo AR's as "throwdowns", building all the good stuff on self-finished blanks. "Nope, that's all of 'em, these guys sure were hard on parts..." Especially if you go with a bolt-together lower, which until you assemble it just looks like random bits of sheet- and bar-stock...
     
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  16. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Now you're getting really close. 3D printing is improving rapidly. People are starting to print metals. It won't be long before any weapon, or any device for that matter, that you can conceive and design will be yours for the printing. "You can't stop the signal, Mal".
     
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  17. ConcreteJungle

    ConcreteJungle Eugene Well-Known Member

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    I'll rank this one up there with MicroStamping. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    Well putting any tracking device in a firearm would violate the 4th Amendment. This is just another example of Liberals ignoring the US constitution. Under the guise of safety, for more government control.

    United States v. Jones, 132 S. Ct. 945, 565 U.S. (2012), was a United States Supreme Court case which held that installing a Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking device on a vehicle and using the device to monitor the vehicle's movements constitutes a search under the Fourth Amendment.

     
  19. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    The term control says it all