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Tasers are NFA "Firearms" per the ATF

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by mkwerx, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    Something I never really bothered checking into before, but I came across this nugget today:

    https://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-76-6.pdf

    It states that Tasers are considered AOW's because they use a small explosive detonation to launch the prongs for the zappy ride. This makes me glad that I didn't purchase a buddy's M26 when he offered after his department began issuing X26s.

    Guess that explains why they aren't sold at places like Sportman's Warehouse and other places and pitched as a great "alternative" to carrying a gun for protection.
     
  2. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Idiots

    "I'm with the government, I'm here to help"
     
  3. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    You want to protect yourself?? . . . Well, we'll just see about that!!!!

    Sheldon
     
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  4. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a pretty weak justification. Hey, my car uses controlled explosions to propel itself. Does that make it a firearm? An explosive? Or an AOE?
     
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  5. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  6. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    CO2 would make sense and coulx be what the new models are using to avoid nfa classification.
     
  7. BroncoFan

    BroncoFan Eastern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    X26 uses compressed nitrogen to expel the probes.
     
  8. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Tasers haven't used the gunpowder propellant since the TF-76 model, and the ATF ruling preceded the collapse of the original company, Taser Systems.

    The new company, Air Taser, switched to using compressed gas in 1993-1994.
     
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  9. usagi

    usagi Redmond Well-Known Member

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    so anything not using gunpowder is not a firearm? nifty. wonder how many footpounds can be achieved from electromagnetic acceleration or compressed gas.
     
  10. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well---a 4 lb pumpkin fired via compressed air with enough velocity to go a mile would probably
    have some impressive foot pound figures!:)
     
  11. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    IIRC, a spud gun that uses ignited hair spray *is* considered a firearm.
     
  12. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Not as long as you are firing spuds for recreational purposes---clip from an ATF letter:

    "We have previously examined that certain muzzle loading devices known as "potato guns." These potato guns are constructed from PVC plastic tubing. They use hair spray or a similar aerosol substance for a propellant, and have some type of spark ignitor. We have determined that these devices, as described, are not firearms provided that they are used solely for launching potatoes for recreational purposes. However, any such devices which are used as weapons or used to launch other forms of projectiles may be firearms and destructive devices as defined."

    Looks like if you stuff a turnip or a beet in that puppy it's off to club Fed?:)
     
  13. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    What about a banana in a tailpipe?

    I remember some schoolmates making one of these from soda cans duct taped together (the cans were much thicker back then) and shooting tennis balls from them. I'm pretty sure they used lighter fluid to power it.
     
  14. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If you launch a turnip with intent to kill, then it is max security for you. :cool:
     
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  15. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Reloading shotgun shells with rock salt... might be creating A salt with intent to pepper? :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Trying to spice up the conversation?
     
  17. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    You could use bacon salt to really dissuade those keeping kosher from messing with your watermelons.
     
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  18. Three Bars

    Three Bars Active Member

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    Wow! Looked at that Amazon Tazer ad...spendy little buggers.
     
  19. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Momm mia!