Talk to me about Sporting Systems......

[11Charlie]

They can do one for a Oregon resident as well?

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Yes @etrain16 has one and lives in Oregon

 

[Ramjet12]

Keep this in mind for NFA in a trust, Gun Trust Loophole Closed, Background Checks For All

 

[RaceFan]

The Background Check applies to all named Responsible Persons. Successor Trustees (those whom you will leave behind your firearms and accessories when you assume room temperature) are not Responsible Persons and do not have to undergo the BGC, unless you specifically name them as a Responsible Person.

 

[Dungannon]

Got mine at Sporting Systems after reading through several lengthy threads on Trusts. Painless apart from the $200 but well worth it.

Oh, and I've bought a couple firearms from them as well.

 

[Sporting Systems]

Our trusts are written for Oregon or Washington only, we don't offer them for other states (due to knowledge of those state laws that would apply to the trust).

 

[etrain16]

They can do one for a Oregon resident as well?

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As @SKrueger said, I have one, it's great. Everything I wanted.

 

[Jarhead 0311]

Last I read is you now are required to get printed and mug shot and get an LE to sign off. I got mine a few years ago for a SBR and Supressor and didn't need to, when I did a couple form 1's

 

[11Charlie]

Last I read is you now are required to get printed and mug shot and get an LE to sign off. I got mine a few years ago for a SBR and Supressor and didn't need to, when I did a couple form 1's

I didn't have to get signed off. Mine was done six months ago. So unless this is something new you don't have to.

Edit: You might have to in Florida but not here. Just noticed where you are from.

 

[Sporting Systems]

Last I read is you now are required to get printed and mug shot and get an LE to sign off. I got mine a few years ago for a SBR and Supressor and didn't need to, when I did a couple form 1's

LE sign off went away under 41F, July 2016. Its just LE notification now. All responsible parties on a trust, or the individual, have to complete the responsible party form, fingerprints and photos with each submission.

 

[etrain16]

LE sign off went away under 41F, July 2016. Its just LE notification now. All responsible parties on a trust, or the individual, have to complete the responsible party form, fingerprints and photos with each submission.

I can't remember, if I want to add a responsible party to my trust (one I got from you folks) after I've already purchased an NFA item on the trust, what do I have to do? Do they then have to go through a process to get added as a responsible person?

 

[Jarhead 0311]

LE sign off went away under 41F, July 2016. Its just LE notification now. All responsible parties on a trust, or the individual, have to complete the responsible party form, fingerprints and photos with each submission.

I got my trust several years ago for $75, mainly to avoid the hassle of prints, LE signoff etc. and to pass the stuff on when I'm gone. I heard it changed somewhat but I wasn't sure what. I prob wouldn't bother with it now. Figures when something works well for us the govt feels the need to change it. Thanks for the info.

 

[Sporting Systems]

I can't remember, if I want to add a responsible party to my trust (one I got from you folks) after I've already purchased an NFA item on the trust, what do I have to do? Do they then have to go through a process to get added as a responsible person?

You'll add a temporary trustee, not a responsible party. No need to do anything with a trustee. There is no compelling reason to add a responsible party, you have a successor grantors listed and

 

[CrackPipe]

....NFA trust.

Who has done one?

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Had them do one for me a couple years back. Great people and excellent service. Can't say enough good things about them... except for that one guy Luke...
OK, I guess he's pretty awesome too. ;-)

 

[etrain16]

You'll add a temporary trustee, not a responsible party. No need to do anything with a trustee. There is no compelling reason to add a responsible party, you have a successor grantors listed and

Ah, thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten that.

 

[11Charlie]

Ah, thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten that.

All you had to do is call!

 

[etrain16]

All you had to do is call!

I figured it might be helpful to have it in writing for anyone else who might want to know

 

[PDXSparky]

Aren't there two ways to do this ?
One requires LE sign-off and one does not ?

The rules changed a while ago. Now the CLEO sign off isn't required for individual purchase, but everyone on the trust has to submit photos and fingerprints along with a copy of the trust so they all undergo the ATF background check.

You just provide the CLEO with a copy of the Form you sent in.

 

[DirectDrive]

The rules changed a while ago. Now the CLEO sign off isn't required for individual purchase, but everyone on the trust has to submit photos and fingerprints along with a copy of the trust so they all undergo the ATF background check.

You just provide the CLEO with a copy of the Form you sent in.

Including the photos and fingerprints or just the form ?

 

[etrain16]

The rules changed a while ago. Now the CLEO sign off isn't required for individual purchase, but everyone on the trust has to submit photos and fingerprints along with a copy of the trust so they all undergo the ATF background check.

You just provide the CLEO with a copy of the Form you sent in.

According to the responses from Sporting Systems (see a few posts above), and based on their trust (which I have), it depends on the position of the persons in the trust - if they are a "responsible party" in the trust, yes, they have to submit. You can have temporary trustees and successor grantors on the trust that don't have to submit. That's per them, and that's what I experienced when I submitted for my suppressors. So really, it depends on what position the people in the trust hold, as to whether or not they have to submit fingerprints and photos.

 

[PDXSparky]

Including the photos and fingerprints or just the form ?

I included photos but not prints when I did my last Form 1's