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Talk me out of an M1 Carbine?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Mikej, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I put a post in "Curio & Relics" that probably didn't belong there, so a copy and paste with my original deleted.

    After looking at the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) offering it looks like those guns may be in pretty bad shape, and not a great investment having to be rebuilt a bunch, pitted barrels, showing heavy use and such. I'd pass on that as a crap-shoot with $700.00. I want a shooter not a collector anyways.

    I'm wondering about a new Inland M1 Carbine? Anybody have one? I read an article in Guns and Ammo on it and really fell in love with the look, and history of the original. The article stated that it's hard to tell the difference between an original and the new one. Ammo price isn't way out of line and straight wall cases are easy to reload, Star Line has brass too at reasonable prices. So are there reasons a person should not like this gun? Some might say get a Garand, I think the Garand is way neat too, but the extra weight/size/recoil is a little much, more difficult to load, and I don't shoot way out, at this point anyway.

    So talk me into OR out of it!

    Thanks

    Mike
     
  2. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Snag one! They are a pretty fun little carbine to shoot. here is one I built starting with just the receiver.
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  3. Larrytpdx

    Larrytpdx Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    My thoughts exactly. $700 is a lot for a beater.
     
  4. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    I've played with the new Inland carbine and I am impressed. It is a cast receiver but so what!
    Get one, you wont be disappointed.
    Of course they are being made by the same company that makes Hi Points!

    You can still find an original carbine in decent shape for 500-700 but its rare these days. And something is always worn out on them. But then again parts are easy to find, and the carbine is very easy to work on!
     
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  5. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Yeah, that "High Point" thing had me stepping back. Do you suppose they cast the receiver for the M1 right next to the slides for the High Point, hmm.
    I was wondering if I was seeing right, there are others manufacturers making new copies too? Or just inland?

    Thanks guys! Hmm, am I glad or not that we're missing the "Talking out of" part, so far? The prices I've seen on Gun Broker and such seems a little high for a knock off, maybe? I was thinking I'd check and see what Keith's could get me one for.
     
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  6. Salps

    Salps Down by the river…. Well-Known Member

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    I used to have 2 of them, one was a very original inland. Fun pretty damn accurate. Very loud, lightweight and handy rifle. Also wanted to hunt black tail deer in the jungles around here.

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  7. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    THAT is way cool!
     
  8. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    Ammo is kind of spendy,,,
     
  9. Salps

    Salps Down by the river…. Well-Known Member

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    I still have a bit of ammo left but it is hard to find and pricy.
     
  10. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    When I looked on-line ammo was available and at $22.00/50 didn't seem crazy. Hell, used to pay $22.0 or something like that for .45acp? I wouldn't want to lose fired brass for sure! I guess ALL ammo I shoot is expensive compared to my home-made. Star Line has .30 carbine brass for $122.00/500, spendy I guess, but that's a lot of shots getting 3-4-5 reloads per case.
     
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  11. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget to get the Blackhawk, to go with the M1.
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  12. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Carbines are fun , light and easy to shoot.
    I owned a '43 dated Inland at one time and like a fool traded it off.
    Just took a long look at the new Inland Carbine at the gun show last weekend.
    It seemed very well put together.
    As stated before ammo can be hard to get.
    Since you hand load this might not be a issue. You could work up a soft point load and have a semi-auto .32.20 wcf so to speak , just dandy for small game and coyotes.
    Andy
     
  13. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I say this you only LIVE ONCE you better by god enjoy it because there is no second time around.
    In the physical sence spirtually well thats in the end. JMO :s0101::s0169::s0067:
     
  14. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    Do get a M1 Carbine.

    Don't get a commercial M1 Carbine!

    Now when you get your CMP gun. Your gona freak out. And maybe throw-up a little bit in your mouth? :confused:

    Not to panic! Contact me. And I will help you make it a functioning thing of beauty.
    I have developed an effective M1 carbine gun/ stock rehabilitation program.
    Trust me. :D

    Rock-0la stock before and after.
     
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  15. No_Regerts

    No_Regerts United States Well-Known Member

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    CMP guns can look good! Strip down the stock, steam out the dents, refinish and voila!
     
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  16. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Man, that's some crazy cool wood in that stock Medic!
     
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  17. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    Thanks.

    It's a Rockola [RMC stamped] High wood. With an I cut sling hole. Plus it's tiger striped! :eek:

    And I did not mean to imply that I charge anything for any service. I'm just willing to help others with there stocks. And to get there carbines running well. With free advice, Tips, and experience with wood stocks and carbines. ;)

    Here another gun with good wood grain hiding, that I liberated with a refinish.

    If your wondering. The rounded gap between the recoil pad and stock on the Winchester. Was already there from the factory! Those Hacks! :mad:

    I preserve all the sharp edges and detail the stock will allow.
     
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  18. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    What's the model of the Winchester? That is a Winchester? Cartridge?

    The money I have to buy the .30 Carbine came from the sale of two of my dads old Winchesters. a model 66 and 86 that were beaters and in pretty bad shape. There was no sentimentality hanging on them. I figured the best thing was turn the old rifles into new rifles so that's why I'm looking to the .30 carbine.
     
  19. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Since 30M1 is a heavy straight wall case you will get more then 4-5 reloads out of a case. I have some that are over 7 loads now Not as good as a bucket shaped case like a 45 ACP but as good as .357 or .38spl. You can also get creative and load 125gr Sierra HPFN's They are a 30-30 bullet with a nice hollow point and a flat nose so short enough for the carbine action. If you are interested let me know I will give you a load starting point. I have gotten very good accuracy from my loads with this bullet. Great hunting round.
     
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  20. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    The gun is a Winchester 94 BB [Big Bore] in .375.

    As to old guns?
    They give me an artistic outlet. Both in mechanically repairing them. And in working with the wood.

    You would be surprised at what you can end up with.

    I endorse people getting CMP guns. Partly to see them learn what I have in bringing them back. And also to enjoy there historic value.
    It's not for everyone. I get that.
    Still. You can shoot them. ;)

    Plus it's also handy to have a dozen or so carbines to loan out as guard duty guns. If the hood turns ugly! :D

    Anyways. I enjoy the challenge.

    Here is another Carbine stock repair I made. After staining it blended in well.
    I use an old broken antique walnut stock I bought for $1 as a wood downer.
    I couldn't save that one.
     
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