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Not sure why it's even a debate, I'll take every edge I can get. Not blowing your ear drums out definitely qualifies. Whining about a suppressor being locked up after it paid dividends helped saving your tail paid is mind boggling to me.
 
The overzealous prosecution thing always gets me. If I'm being attacked in MY own home with MY family's safety on the line, I am unable to see how they could effectively twist it into me being the bad guy just because I had my gun suppressed. Unless they could prove I somehow lured an unsuspecting criminal into performing a nighttime invasion.

If it would be an otherwise legal self defense situation, the suppressor is exactly what it is, a hearing saver when hearing protection may not be accessible. If you're dealing with an anti-gun jury who sees it differently, you might be SOL either way.

I'd love to sleep with an ear pro headset on all night every night... but I'm not sure what my wife would think. I have a CPAP mask I could throw on too. Now that I think of it, the intruder might be freaked out just at the sight.

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Not sure why it's even a debate, I'll take every edge I can get. Not blowing your ear drums out definitely qualifies. Whining about a suppressor being locked up after it paid dividends helped saving your tail paid is mind boggling to me.
Perhaps more of a concern when suppressors took a long long time to get. More folks might NOT have wanted to risk losing one for another unknown timeframe.

Now that approval times are incredibly short comparatively, less of a time sink loss. Plus many more folks own them now vs just a few years ago.

So more folks are seeing the benefits of there practical use.
 
. Whining about a suppressor being locked up after it paid dividends helped saving your tail paid is mind boggling to me.
Agree suppressor lockup shouldn't be a major concern. Suppressor locked up can be mitigated with ceramic lube which is stable beyond suppressor temps and also if suppressor has wrench flats.
 
Perhaps more of a concern when suppressors took a long long time to get. More folks might NOT have wanted to risk losing one for another unknown timeframe.

Now that approval times are incredibly short comparatively, less of a time sink loss. Plus many more folks own them now vs just a few years ago.

So more folks are seeing the benefits of there practical use.
Agree. Less than a month start to finish made me buy some cans I definitely would not have otherwise.
 
Suppress it. It saves your hearing, your family's hearing and takes no consideration to use. I keep my smallest suppressor on my home defense rifle, just to keep it barely hearing safe for a few shots.

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If it is a good shoot a suppressor is not going to convince anyone it's not, and you don't want anyone's hearing to be a casually. Remember, this is not the range. However loud you think a gun is outside it will be way louder inside.
What suppressor are you running in the pic? I am looking for something small like that.
 
What suppressor are you running in the pic? I am looking for something small like that.
YHM fat cat. It's quieter than suppressors of the same length by a lot, but not quieter than suppressors of similar weight/volume that are longer. But it does do the job adequately well in the shortest form factor I can find, which was what I wanted.
 
If I'm shooting inside my home, I want the entire neighborhood to wake up. Someone has to dial 911.
Whereas I frequently put down coyote, possum, trash panda, trying to kill our poultry, and the neighbors never notice. Nor anyone in the house. And I still have perfect hearing. It's great to say your hearing is expendable, but it really isn't. Try an experiment of wearing plugs and muffs all day and see how it works.

If you have an MP3 player, try a loop of low-level white noise or a 10K sine fed into the muffs. By the end of the day you'll be worshipping suppressors.

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Whereas I frequently put down coyote, possum, trash panda, trying to kill our poultry, and the neighbors never notice. Nor anyone in the house. And I still have perfect hearing. It's great to say your hearing is expendable, but it really isn't. Try an experiment of wearing plugs and muffs all day and see how it works.

If you have an MP3 player, try a loop of low-level white noise or a 10K sine fed into the muffs. By the end of the day you'll be worshipping suppressors.

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I should have clarified, I wouldn't use a suppressor during a home invasion. If it's for rodents or pests, different deal. IMG_2277.jpeg
 
I should have clarified, I wouldn't use a suppressor during a home invasion. If it's for rodents or pests, different deal. View attachment 2025786
I really don't understand why you'd ruin your hearing for life on the off-chance a neighbor knows what they heard and is willing to call the cops. You can always call cops afterward. Or a modern phone will call by voice, and just have it connected. The dispatcher will know what to do when they hear the fracas.

Or we have a panic button on the alarm system.

I'd suggest everyone try an indoor range and fire a .22 without earpro, and realize how much more damaging and disorienting (including possible permanent damage to your balance) it's going to be in your hallway or bedroom when you fire something with some presence.

But if that's your approach, I've said my piece.
 
I really don't understand why you'd ruin your hearing for life on the off-chance a neighbor knows what they heard and is willing to call the cops. You can always call cops afterward. Or a modern phone will call by voice, and just have it connected. The dispatcher will know what to do when they hear the fracas.

Or we have a panic button on the alarm system.

I'd suggest everyone try an indoor range and fire a .22 without earpro, and realize how much more damaging and disorienting (including possible permanent damage to your balance) it's going to be in your hallway or bedroom when you fire something with some presence.

But if that's your approach, I've said my piece.
I appreciate your feedback and contribution. It's always nice to hear other perspectives on the topic.
 

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