Suppressor

jackrocks59 · Mar 20, 2009

Can anyone tell me where I can get a silencer for my Walther P22. I have found sites on the internet, but after all the paperwork and shipping it takes about 3 months! I want to go out and play with one now. I have a threaded pistol allready just need the suppressor. Any help would be appreciated....

needs2hunt · Mar 20, 2009

to legally own one its going to take you 3 months time at least... just the way it goes... :s0112:

Keane · Mar 20, 2009

Visit Pat @ Oregon Research Labs, he'll let you shoot a few to try them out! It won't necessarily take 3 months, the paperwork through the ATF can be brutal, but potentially faster.

Doing the whole 'ordering' thing isn't a problem if you grab one that is in stock!

Also check out TROS. They are at the Gun show this weekend, but they are normally in corvallis. they are mfgs, and often actually have them in stock.

Finally, Revelation Arms has a 22 can in stock right now, I had it in my hands the other day. I am considering buying it, but if you get there first....

jackrocks59 · Mar 20, 2009

Thanks Keane appreciate the info...

Keane · Mar 20, 2009

No problem! I put in an order through Pat for an SWR HEMS 2 a while ago(its about a week away, then I get to start my ATF paperwork), so during the wait I've done nothing but research.

If you have any other questions, just ask!

jackrocks59 · Mar 20, 2009

What is the whole criteria for being allowed to own one? I just want one so I can go plinking in the woods without drawing attention to myself. Is it just the same background check as for firearms? and what if someone here or on another site has one privately, is it ok to just purchase it from them like we do firearms here? thanks again

Keane · Mar 20, 2009

To purchase one, it is the same FBI background check, though the ATF does it.

You can not buy F2F, you have to transfer it through the ATF and buy a 'tax stamp' for $200.

This background check is what takes all the time. You send in a form with fingerprints, pictures and a CLEO signature, and wait!

You can also file through a 'trust', which occassionally is quicker, but you still wait for at least a month, but you don't require the prints, pictures, or the CLEO signature.

jackrocks59 · Mar 20, 2009

Darn sounds like alot of work. What is the "trust" you were refering.

Keane · Mar 20, 2009

A trust is a legal entity, similar to a corporation, where the 'trust' owns stuff, and the officers are allowed to use it.

They aren't that expensive to set up, and make the process smoother.

Look up "Revokable living trust" for more info, they are usually used for estate planning.

HOWEVER: The fact that a company/trust can own a suppressor is only by the ATF's interpretation of the law, and is in no way written into the law. An unfriendly director I would imagine, can take that right away if he/she wishes.

jackrocks59 · Mar 20, 2009

Thanks again Keane looks like I will just start the waiting game. From visiting the sites you mentioned it sounds like you pay first then get approved. if you dont get approved i guess your out the cash?

Keane · Mar 20, 2009

Yes, you must purchase the suppressor and pay the tax FIRST. Most dealers, however, will most likely let you return the suppressor if you fail.

A pass on the tax stamp is a given, as long as you pass the same background to purchase a firearm.

I'm not sure about the $200 for the tax stamp. They cash the check before they even look at your paperwork, however, I would suspect they give it back if you fail. I've never known anyone to NOT get approved, since all are already legal gun owners.

Trlsmn · Mar 20, 2009

jackrocks59 said:
Thanks again Keane looks like I will just start the waiting game. From visiting the sites you mentioned it sounds like you pay first then get approved. if you dont get approved i guess your out the cash?

A trust has other benefits such as no CLEO approval necessary and no finger prints required.

+1 on Pat at ORL-LLC

Keane · Mar 20, 2009

Trlsmn said:
A trust has other benefits such as no CLEO approval necessary and no finger prints required.

+1 on Pat at ORL-LLC

Yep, i mentioend that in my 1st post on the trust.

I still would only do a trust if your CLEO didnt sign off... there are specific risks involved, since their ability to own a suppressor is entirely a 'reading' of the law, and not actually the law.