Suggestion for NWFA Project: Mil/Local LE loads and commercial clones

[Diamondback]

Based on some advice Mas Ayoob once gave about "carry what your local LEO's issue," I thought it'd be worth opening a discussion about what various agencies issue--I'll throw in commercial clones of Milspec rounds and Federal LE-issue as within scope too, but don't know where to start. Input from our Sworn & Badged members whether current or retired is especially appreciated.

I have some notes on Milspec commercial equivalents that I'll edit in after--corrections and additions are most welcome.

Federal Gov. - Defense Department, all 5.56
- M193 55gr FMJ - NSN's 1305-00-965-0775, 1305-00-926-3970
- - IMI M193
- - Winchester Q3131
- - PMC 5.56X
- M855 green-tip LAP
- - Sellier & Bellot SS109
- - PMC X-Tac Green Tip-LAP 5.56K or 5.56K-BP
- - Prvi Partisan M855
- - Olympic SS109
- - Lake City Arsenal M855
- - Federal American Eagle/Lake City XM855
- - Double Tap Ammunition SS109
- - Winchester M855 – RA556M855K
- - IMI M855
- - Winchester Q3269
- - Federal XM855LC1 AC1
- - Federal XM855CS or XM855BK150
- M855A1 - DODIC's AB56-AB58; NSN's 1305-01-559-3332, 1305-01-155-5459, 1305-01-457-4589
- Mk 255
- Mk 262 Mod 0 - NSN 1305-01-497-9996
- Mk 262 Mod 1 - NSN 1305-01-507-7511
- - Black Hills 5.56 77gr OTM
- - Federal FC262
- Mk 311
- Mk 318 Mod 0 Barrier - NSN's 1305-01-573-2229, FC-10C801-013
- - Federal T556TNB1 aka AB49

Federal Gov. - Justice Dept.
FBI 5.56
- - Winchester Ranger Q3314, Q3313 aka RA556B
- - Federal TBBC XM556FBIT3
- - Beck 556-64gr-nosler-jsp

WA Local Agencies
Most Western WA (sidearm): Speer Gold Dot (early 2000s), Federal HST (more recent)
No_Regerts's office
--9mm sidearm: 147gr Federal HST (duty)/American Eagle FMJ (practice)
--Shotgun: Federal Tactical 00 Buck 12 GA (lower base than standard 00 buck)
--5.56 patrol rifle: Federal XM193 (standard), Hornady TAP 55gr. (specialty)
--.308 Designated Marksman: Federal 168gr Tactical Bonded

OR Local Agencies
near Albany, OR (5.56) Hornady Vmax (spec unknown)

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[Member 5605]

A local PD here issues Vmax to their .223/5.56 carrying patrol guys.....

That's what was in there when I did my ride along.

 

[Caveman Jim]

Or this.
Military Surplus .224 Diameter Bullets - 62 Grain FMJBT SS109
I'm reloading Freedom ammo (SHTF or GOV runamuk) I want what's gonna put em down for good. Yeah 308 would do it right quick but for the time being I am 308 less....

 

[Diamondback]

Good point, Jim, but we're talking Standard Issue ready-to-fire and commercial equivalents thereof--not all of us have space or budget for our own reloading benches.

[EDIT: Moment of confusion, forgot SS109 is M855 not M193]

 

[Diamondback]

@No_Regerts Any chance of getting a pro's voice here?

 

[No_Regerts]

@No_Regerts Any chance of getting a pro's voice here?

We are using 147gr Federal HST 9mm for duty, Federal American Eagle 147gr FMJ for practice.

Federal Tactical 00 Buck 12 GA (lower base than standard 00 buck)

Federal XM193 5.56x45.....BUT.....I have seen some specialty guys with Hornady TAP 55gr.

Federal 168gr Tactical Bonded in 308

I think our procurement people must own stock in ATK or something.

 

[Diamondback]

Thanks, amigo. I'm not going to name agency names since you don't, so I'll just catalog it as "NR's Undisclosed W.WA LEA".

 

[Diamondback]

I think our procurement people must own stock in ATK or something.

Or maybe just a "bulk purchase" discount...