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Study by Doctors determines 3 new gun laws would eliminate 83% of US gun deaths

Discussion in 'Firearm Legislation & Activism' started by Lance Jacobs, May 31, 2016.

  1. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    A major study by 3 esteemed PhD's, together with 2 MD's, has concluded that 83% of the gun deaths in the United States could be easily eliminated, by simply passing 3 new gun laws. They are:

    1) Mandatory background checks on all gun sales

    2) Mandatory background checks on all ammunition sales

    3) Compulsory registration of all privately owned firearms with the government.

    Once all of the above has been done, these highly educated and learned people state the gun violence in America will shrink to a small fraction of what it is currently, with the lives of 83% of the people currently being killed by guns being saved.

    Does it not make sense to implement all of these laws, when they would reduce gun deaths so dramatically?? What do you think of the logic they are using?

    The authors of the study are:

    Dr Bindu Kalesan, PhD, Department of Medicine, Boston University

    Matthew E Mobily, MD, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University

    Olivia Keiser, PhD, Institute of Social and Preventive Medicine, University of Bern, Switzerland

    Jeffrey A Fagan, PhD, Department of Epidemiology, Columbia University

    Sandro Galea, MD, School of Public Health, Boston University

    Here is a link to the study, which was published in the Lancet:


    Just pass these 3 simple laws, and countless thousands of lives will be saved!!! Do you think that this is too good to be true? What if all of these laws are past, and gun deaths don't plument?? What then? A study that more gun controls are needed?

    It really looks like the movement to require background checks on ammo is growing. As well as demands for mandatory gun registration.

  2. d2the3

    d2the3 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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  3. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the doctors who did the study need to ask themselves :
    How often does a criminal follow a law?
    Just how does a Mandatory Background check stop a crime with a stolen gun?
    As the law already exists , if I buy a gun through a dealer or private party, I will get a BGC , why then do I need a BGC if I buy ammunition?
    Who gets the money from all these BGC's?
    Do you really think a man who is already a criminal , will go out a register his gun if it becomes law to do so?
    Many laws of these types are already in place in some states in the U.S. , did any of these states have a drop of 83% of the gun deaths?

    Gun laws like these do little to nothing to stop crime or save lives.
    They do however place unfair restrictions on law abiding citizens.
    Why should I or anyone else who has not committed a crime be punished or restricted , because of the actions of another?
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  4. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    RIGHT but the law that makes Murder illegal doesn't work. What morons.
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  5. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    And this will help reduce suicides, which by far accounts for the most gun deaths? Or do they only include those numbers when it's convenient for them?
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  6. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Sounds like a complete load of sh¡t to me.
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  7. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Yep, because that'll really stop gang shootings in Chicago.. Gotta love the elite intellectuals "opinions" on the matter. :confused:

    All it'll do is create a massive ammunition black market, as one with firearms already exists.

    Shoot, even I would sell my ammo to get in on that action $$$.
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  8. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    If you look at their references page it's a library of anti-gunners with titles such as, " The effectiveness of legislation controlling gun usage" and "Children are safer in states with strict firearm laws: a National Inpatient Sample study."

    Another example of liberals telling each other they are more liberal and smart than the "heathens" who cling to their guns and bibles.
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  9. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    They referenced this article
    Firearm-related injury and death in the United States: a call to action from 8 health professional organizations and the American Bar Association. - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25706470?dopt=Abstract)

    which says that this "restricting the manufacture and sale of military-style assault weapons and large-capacity magazines for civilian use" will reduce gun deaths

    which then states
    "The American Bar Association, acting through its Standing Committee on Gun Violence, confirms that none of these recommendations conflict with the Second Amendment"

    Im so glad that the founders wrote the American Bar Association into the constitution so they could interpret it for us. :confused:
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  10. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Total anti-gun B.S. of course. Just another tactic to get laws on the books to 'see if they work', and if they don't, the laws stay in place, and our freedoms have been forever compromised. When it comes to guns and gun rights the only doctor's opinion I'm remotely interested in is our own @bolus :)

    It's unfortunate how many empty-headed anti-gun morons will buy into false crap like this, and vote in the politicians that will try to make it happen.

    I wonder if the same people that said over and over and over again that laws won't stop people from using marijuana, so we have to make it legal, will see the hypocrisy in using the exact opposite tactic to prevent gun violence??? Somehow laws will stop gun violence, but can't prevent people from using drugs? How f'ing stupid are people??? :mad: :(
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  11. therealhitman

    therealhitman USA Active Member

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    Wise up Lance. It is just the socialist mainstream media pushing it harder than ever. It DOES NOT REFLECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Besides, real Americans must have allegiance to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. That is a prerequisite as I see it. IMO loyalty to any other social system is Treason. Socialists and progressives should probably surrender citizenship and leave before those kind of charges get pressed and sentencing done on their traitorous @$$&$ o_O

    A guy can dream can't he?
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  12. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Present company excluded, I am curious why these MDs don't address the statistics related to medical mistakes and hospital born infections leading to the death of the patient unrelated to the original condition. Statistics that make firearms related fatalities pale in comparison.

    Hospital Acquired Infections are the 4th leading cause of patient deaths, killing 270 people per day in the USA.
    Hospital Acquired Infections Becomes A Leading Cause In Patient Deaths (http://www.onemedplace.com/blog/archives/7631)

    Edited to add:
    For the record, that is ~8200 people per month. The average of all mass shootings in the USA since 1982 is ~1.5 per month
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  13. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    What would be even more interesting than that is what three laws could be passed to reduce the quarter million annual deaths resulting from medical malpractice! :rolleyes:
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  14. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    We should just get rid of the whole Supreme Court thing and just let the American Bar Association run the show.
  15. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    Well, etrain, they only don't work because we haven't passed enough laws or other states haven't passed enough laws. If we keep passing laws crime will stop. Remember, when no one is allowed to have guns, there will be zero crime. Look at China, East Timor, India, Lebanon(one of the most heavily armed countries in the world and a center of illegal arms trafficking), Saudi Arabia (where it's illegal to purchase a firearm, but if you buy one illegally on the black market you can register it and get a permit), Taiwan (remember in March when a guy beheaded a 4 year old girl in the middle of a busy street), Vietnam, France, Jamaica, Brazil, etc...
  16. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well you got me there....:rolleyes:
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  17. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    how about they add this law too... " All law breaking criminals must obey the law now and buy guns legally" sounds pretty good right? makes me feel good that i tried and that is all that matters.

  18. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    When I clicked, I expected to see "Mandatory locked safe storage" as one of the suggested laws. Makes more sense than ammo BGC. It is what I practice, but I don't force my believes on others.

    Since half of all firearm deaths are suicides, how are these laws going to eliminate 83% of them?
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  19. whiskeybill

    whiskeybill Battle Ground, WA Well-Known Member

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    This sounds suspiciously like a Bloomberg funded study. Smaller soft drinks won't make you fat.
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  20. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Well-Known Member

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    Be sure you have all the ammo and components you need before the 2017 Oregon Legislative Session... Pretty sure we will see something like this happen here, background checks for ammo...

    Then comes ammo registration...
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