I don't care who you are or where you hang out, ask ANYONE what "Winchester" means and 99% will equate the name with guns or ammunition - as long as you've been alive. So that should be a trusted, tried-and-true brand of ammo to buy, yes? Regarding that rep, here are my pros and cons... I bought four 100-round "value packs" of 230 grain Winchester .45 Auto at Walmart about half a year ago, thinking it was a good price. I've always liked Winchester guns and 12 gauge shotgun shells, but I was sorely disappointed with 3 failures to fire (FTF) in 15 rounds of the value pack .45 ACP. Primers were thoroughly indented, but they did nothing. What DID work on the same outing included Tulammo, Remington, PPU, Blazer and Federal. So of those 6 brands, Winchester is THE BRAND I would refuse to carry in a self-defense weapon. Actually, I carry hollow point "flying ashtrays," but not Winchesters, based on that disappointing experience. I thoroughly test what I carry. Some brands impress me and some don't. So I contacted Winchester, who promptly responded with free UPS return shipping and a timely refund exceeding my investment by $100. Fair enough! Given this desperate shortage, I might be inclined to ask them to keep their money and send me a similar dollar amount of .22LR ammo instead! But the sad thing is that I bought 6 bricks of Winchester .22LR about 6 years ago during the intitial onset of the Obama occupation (...that miserable POS and his guffawing jester Joe Bidet). And THAT ammo failed too! FTF, FTE, and pissy little weak shots/squibs - about 25-30%! So! WTF Winchester??? Wouldn't it make more sense to manufacture and sell a quality product, and be known for delivering the goods? Inspire customer confidence in Box #1, vs. excellent customer service and back-pedaling with refunds when your ammo fails? Just a thought... but what do I know?