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Got a chance to take this gun to the range today for the first time. My impression in one word: "Smooth"
Some details on gun: Blowback. No buffer tube. Delayed bolt system - Bolt is forward of ejection port and on top of barrel. 8" barrel but small size overall due to bolt location (comparable to 6 and 7" barrels on other models). Fit in my laptop bag along with laptop and planner. Non reciprocating handle. Setup is with sig mpx gen1 folding brace, $25ish nightstrike angled foregrip, fyland $27 reflex red dot. Gun cost was $670 with 3 mags. I'll try to post pics below later when I'm at my computer.
Biggest "pros" for me:
-Soft shooter, not harsh
-Action very smooth
-Build quality very high
-Note: I can't say on reliability yet cuz only 200 rounds through it so far but other reviews have shown it can handle most any type of ammo (search YouTube especially graham bates review)
-No "twang" from buffer tube felt on ur cheek
-No buffer tube means easy to add folding stock without expensive law adapter or similar. Makes for a small package when folded. Telescoping brace would be great also I think.
Some "cons" that can be improved:
-Mag needs metal lips
-Don't like bolt release lever - cheap feeling. But I ended up releasing bolt every time by pulling back on charging handle. That big handle up front is nice and easy to grab.
-Flip up sights are polymer. Extra set of sights are included with gun.
Additional "pros" for me:
-Mag very easy to load by hand
-Mag release good, mag ejects strongly not just falls out
-Wide flaring makes easy to get mag in even at an angle
-Last round bolt hold open
-Love big charging handle
-Trigger is great
My test: shot straight out of box no cleaning or lube
100 rounds federal champion 115 gr aluminum case
50 rounds an eagle 115 gr brass
50 rounds am eagle 147 gr brass
No malfunctions
Setup 3 steel targets far apart from each other so had to rotate a long ways to acquire new target.
I'm almost exclusively a speed shooter and don't do much slow fire at all. Mostly did 2 shot as fast as possible sometimes more than 2 shots. And of course one obligatory 1/2 mag dump ha ha.
Also setup 1 paper target for sighting in and brief slow fire. 5 shots slowfire kneeling at 18 yds created one big ragged 3/4"ish hole
Bottom line: my holy grail for this type of gun is a full auto mp5. So I'm always looking for "a poor man's mp5". I can't compare recoil impulse/smoothness to mp5 or sig MPX cuz I haven't shot those, but for blowback imo it is very smooth. I found it to be much smoother and much less recoil impulse than a lighter weight polymer 9mm pcc I've shot. Love this gun and very happy with it for the price point. I think the step up to the next level would probably require a lot more money (e.g. sig mpx at $1500ish or mp5 at $2500ish).
Some details on gun: Blowback. No buffer tube. Delayed bolt system - Bolt is forward of ejection port and on top of barrel. 8" barrel but small size overall due to bolt location (comparable to 6 and 7" barrels on other models). Fit in my laptop bag along with laptop and planner. Non reciprocating handle. Setup is with sig mpx gen1 folding brace, $25ish nightstrike angled foregrip, fyland $27 reflex red dot. Gun cost was $670 with 3 mags. I'll try to post pics below later when I'm at my computer.
Biggest "pros" for me:
-Soft shooter, not harsh
-Action very smooth
-Build quality very high
-Note: I can't say on reliability yet cuz only 200 rounds through it so far but other reviews have shown it can handle most any type of ammo (search YouTube especially graham bates review)
-No "twang" from buffer tube felt on ur cheek
-No buffer tube means easy to add folding stock without expensive law adapter or similar. Makes for a small package when folded. Telescoping brace would be great also I think.
Some "cons" that can be improved:
-Mag needs metal lips
-Don't like bolt release lever - cheap feeling. But I ended up releasing bolt every time by pulling back on charging handle. That big handle up front is nice and easy to grab.
-Flip up sights are polymer. Extra set of sights are included with gun.
Additional "pros" for me:
-Mag very easy to load by hand
-Mag release good, mag ejects strongly not just falls out
-Wide flaring makes easy to get mag in even at an angle
-Last round bolt hold open
-Love big charging handle
-Trigger is great
My test: shot straight out of box no cleaning or lube
100 rounds federal champion 115 gr aluminum case
50 rounds an eagle 115 gr brass
50 rounds am eagle 147 gr brass
No malfunctions
Setup 3 steel targets far apart from each other so had to rotate a long ways to acquire new target.
I'm almost exclusively a speed shooter and don't do much slow fire at all. Mostly did 2 shot as fast as possible sometimes more than 2 shots. And of course one obligatory 1/2 mag dump ha ha.
Also setup 1 paper target for sighting in and brief slow fire. 5 shots slowfire kneeling at 18 yds created one big ragged 3/4"ish hole
Bottom line: my holy grail for this type of gun is a full auto mp5. So I'm always looking for "a poor man's mp5". I can't compare recoil impulse/smoothness to mp5 or sig MPX cuz I haven't shot those, but for blowback imo it is very smooth. I found it to be much smoother and much less recoil impulse than a lighter weight polymer 9mm pcc I've shot. Love this gun and very happy with it for the price point. I think the step up to the next level would probably require a lot more money (e.g. sig mpx at $1500ish or mp5 at $2500ish).
