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You can't have it both ways folks....
How on earth did you reach that conclusion? By that reasoning guns or spears or clubs etc. go in and out of Second Amendment protection based on how its being used at a given time. How do you get that from "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."?The Second references ARMS, of which firearms are a subset. It means clubs, knives, swords,guns, etc.. Whatever the citizen feels is needed to protect themselves, their loved ones, their fellow citizens and their country, The Second DOES NOT guarantee your right to a hunting rifle. If it did not qualify as a defensive WEAPON the Second would not protect it whatsoever.
What does the term "arms" mean?How on earth did you reach that conclusion? By that reasoning guns or spears or clubs etc. go in and out of Second Amendment protection based on how its being used at a given time. How do you get that from "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." There is no clause excepting hunting or gun-juggling or any other activity from the Second Amendment. Shall not be infringed means exactly what it says. It says nothing about hunting OR personal defense.
Just show me where hunting is excepted in the wording of the Second Amendment.What does the term "arms" mean?
What is the reason for the Second? Hint: It's not hunting. It's the defense of yourself, your loved ones, your countrymen, and your country,
The act of hunting is a separate concern and not an expressly enumerated right.
Read the federalist papers.Just show me where hunting is excepted in the wording of the Second Amendment.
HINT: The Second makes NO statement about it one way or the other. It is simply the right to keep and bear arms. It says nothing, nada, zero or zippo about why you are bearing those arms.
It says your right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Reading anything else into those words is always an attempt to diminish that right.
Consider the entire wording of the Second and the intent of the people as the militia. Then consider the discussion in the Federalist papers. It's pretty clear, at least to me.What is interesting , to me at least is what the 2nd Amendment does not say.
Such as :
"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms , but only arms of certain types and only for specific purposes..."
Speaking only for myself here in regards to original wording...
"arms" means anything weapon related ...
All without needing to provide a reason or purpose to keep or bear said arms.
Arms :
Dr. Johnson's Dictionary of the English Language ( 1755 ) has this to say about arms :
"Weapons of offence or armour of defence ".
( Spelling original )
Arms current definition :
"Weapons and ammunition , armaments".
Not so different....
Andy
Not so sure that I agree....Consider the entire wording of the Second and the intent of the people as the militia. Then consider the discussion in the Federalist papers. It's pretty clear, at least to me.
No, it does not say that arms, firearms or otherwise, may only be used for defense, just that defense is the reason that we have the right to keep and bear them.
The preface clause... this right here:Consider the entire wording of the Second and the intent of the people as the militia. Then consider the discussion in the Federalist papers. It's pretty clear, at least to me.
No, it does not say that arms, firearms or otherwise, may only be used for defense, just that defense is the reason that we have the right to keep and bear them.
We are a lot more in agreement than otherwise. As an analogy, the reason for owning a blade style screwdriver is a slot headed screw. Everybody who has only used a screwdriver for screws and not for prying, scraping, etc., please raise your hand.Not so sure that I agree....
With that said....
I do not think that one needs to provide a reason to keep and bear arms...or that "arms" should be restricted to certain types or uses.
Andy
Yep.We are in a lot more agreement than otherwise. As an analogy, the reason for owning a blade style screwdriver is a slot headed screw. Everybody who has only used a screwdriver for screws and not for prying, scraping, etc., please raise your hand.
I thought not...