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'Stop-and-Frisk' - good idea or bad?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Big Apple bloodbath: Calls for return of ‘stop-and-frisk’ a good idea?

    Six months into the term of New York’s ultra-liberal anti-gun Mayor Bill de Blasio has some folks wishing for the “good old days” under Michael Bloomberg, who supported the so-called “stop-and-frisk” policy to check people for illegal guns, according to a Monday report on WPIX 11, and this morning’s New York Daily News.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/big-apple-bloodbath-calls-for-return-of-stop-and-frisk-a-good-idea
     
  2. Sodbuster

    Sodbuster Beaverton, OR Chief Cook/Bottle Washer

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    Bad idea. Like most other "good sounding ideas", stop and frisk has the common good as it's goal. Problem is that common good stomps all over the constitution. So, simple enough answer.
     
  3. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Wow. Stop & Frisk is evil.

    I have read accounts where it is performed on brown skinned people like most of the time.
     
  4. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Bad Idea!!!
     
  5. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Oh, oh, oh, why not make a law, that bad guys can't have guns ???............:s0092:
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  6. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The argument is that they are merely enforcing that law. ;)
     
  7. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    One of the side effects of the stop and frisk policy was a sharp increase in drug busts. They would make the person empty their pockets before the frisk, and any contraband would then be out in public They could then be arrested without a search warrant.

    Amazing how people can turn their backs when it comes to trampling on another persons rights.
     
  8. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

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    Bad idea.

    I'm surprised it's lasted this long and not been tossed out by some Federal judge on 4th amendment grounds. If they keep it up that's exactly what will happen and then LE nationwide will be without a tool, if used legitimately can be very useful and effective.

    Just thinking out loud it sure would be interesting to see the stats on how many guns are found (given their strict gun control laws).
     
  9. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/seven-reasons-police-brutality-is-systematic-not-anecdotal/

    "Darrin Manning’s unprovoked “stop and frisk” encounter with the Philadelphia police left him hospitalized with a ruptured testicle ... "


    " Minorities are unfairly targeted.

    “Simply put,” says University of Florida law professor Katheryn K. Russell, “the public face of a police brutality victim is a young man who is Black or Latino.” In this case, research suggests perception matches reality. To give a particularly striking example, one Florida city’s “stop and frisk” policy has been explicitly aimed at all black men. Since 2008, this has led to 99,980 stops which did not produce an arrest in a city with a population of just 110,000. One man alone was stopped 258 times at his job in four years, and arrested for trespassing while working on 62 occasions. Failure to address this issue communicates to police that minorities are a safe target for abuse."
     
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  10. Kid@Heart

    Kid@Heart Vancouver, USA Cynic Lifetime Supporter Diamond Supporter

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    Depends on the situation...

    Am I the frisker or the friskee?
     
  11. 1337BaldEagle

    1337BaldEagle Earth Active Member

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    Bad Idea. The Constitution followed to a "t" allows for a lot more people getting a way with wrong doing, in exchange for the innocent to NEVER be wrongfully convicted, or unfairly fall under scrutiny. The sad part about this is it is not followed, and yes, we may convict the guilty at a higher rate, but at what cost? Payment is the innocents lives. Just think there has been 317 exonerations do to DNA evidence being tested in the US since 1989, 20 some years. 30 of the exonorations plead guilty in order to "seek a better deal" because they knew they were going to the pen. Is that right? No. No, it's not. It shouldn't happen to anyone. Period.

    It is that simple.




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