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Steel shot question ...

Discussion in 'Shotgun Discussion' started by AndyinEverson, Jan 6, 2016.

  1. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    So I bought new in 2014 a H&R Pardner single shot shotgun in .20 gauge with a modified choke.
    The idea behind this gun was the need for a light weight grouse gun , which it is.
    But if Washington goes "lead free" as it were for all hunting not just waterfowl
    can I shoot steel shot through it?
    Thanks,
    Andy
     
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  2. nextgenar

    nextgenar roseburg Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Ya steel shot would be fine in it. Is Washington seriously considering going all lead free? That's insane!!
     
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  3. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I believe most (if not all) newer shotgun barrels will handle steel shot. If you have any doubts your best bet would be to query the manufacturer and get an answer from them directly, but I found this Q&A on Fields & Stream and the guy mentioned he talked to H&R and they said those shotguns were made with steel shot in mind.

    Hope that helps!

    http://www.fieldandstream.com/answe...ngle-shot-modified-choke-26inch-barrel-gun-i-


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    By samsonjohn 10 Jan 2013 3:09 pm
    thanks for the help and answers. i just fot off the phone with h&r to adress thesteel shot concerns. they said there barrels. are made with steel shot in mind. cool!

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  4. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I've got one in 12 gauge - it's a fun little break barrel shotgun (and I have a set of adapters for shooting various other cartridges, such as pistol calibers through it). I did a little searching about this a while back myself. They don't address it on their website or the user manual as far as I could see. And like Stomper noted, it's been discussed on various forums. As an additional piece of info to what Stomper posted, I had also read that steel shot is fine, but they said to keep it under #2, no BB sized steel shot.
     
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  5. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    You will be fine! You can shoot steel bb thru it also but I would replace the choke after about 500 rounds. You can see the wear if you look close.
    Or just wait till your choke flys out with the shot.. That's what I recommend actually!!:)
     
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  6. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If he's got the same H&R I do, the choke is built in to the barrel, so no go on replacing the choke. You'd have to replace the whole barrel, and I believe they have stopped production on these now, if I'm not mistaken.
     
  7. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    I have one with removable chokes, I bought last year. But it could have been an older model.
     
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  8. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I bought my 12 gauge last year as well, new, definitely not a removable choke. Still a nice shotgun though.
     
  9. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the help guys.
    Mine has a fixed modified choke.
    Andy
     
  10. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    Just go out and find out what it patterns to. You can hone it out to cylinder bore if you wish. I did mine to improved cyl which is .005 under cyl bore. works really well with BB size all the way down to #8 shot. Great little quail gun! Remember with steel shot you don't lead your shot and you loose most of the range you had with lead shot! HAVE FUN!
     
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  11. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I believe all shotguns made after the 80's were made for steel
    The local shop has a CZ single shot 20 gun I kinda want for grouse.
    Then i would have to get up extra early to decide between the 10/22, the browning tbolt,the marlin 39,the Ruger MKIII and the CZ 20ga
     
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  12. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    I know what ya mean by getting up extra early LOL
    For me the choices would be : My Hawken , The Southgate longrifle , the Northwest tradegun , my Remington 511 , .20 gauge 870 or the H&R. Whew! makes me tired just thinking about it LOL.
    Andy
     
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  13. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Sheesh... you guys need to work out more! LOL
     
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  14. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Very true Stomper ... my "action hero" days are long gone LOL
    Andy
     
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  15. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I hear ya, getting old ain't for the weak! ;)
     
  16. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Amen. However I do find it sad that I can do more push ups and sit ups than some of my high school students.
    Andy
     
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  17. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I had my family up this last weekend and my 12yo grandson couldn't keep up with me on a flat walk.
    Yes it was 3500 feet higher than where he lives and yes there was about a foot of snow.
    But it was on a trail we had broke in the snow
     
  18. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    No snarky here, but steel shot or lead shot, it's an H&R! A perfectly serviceable shotgun, but we're not talking about a top of the line Beretta here. Go ahead and shoot what ever you need to. :)
     
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  19. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    I hear ya Sgt. Nambu. ( No snarks here , I have a snark bite kit LOL )
    Just don't like or want to abuse my gun if it can be avoided , no matter the name or price range.
    Besides these aren't made anymore , and not as easy to find as they once were , at least where I live.
    Andy
     
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