Starting New Militia

[ZA_Survivalist]

There isn't any harm in forming a militia especially when we can all pitch in with our local communities in time of need when it comes to natural disasters or other
times of need.

Yes there's the National Guard but a true militia takes orders from no one from the government in some respect.
Nor are they supposed to be locked in to a contract and sent Lord knows where.
A militia man may come and go as he pleases, as it should be.

"Well regulated" IMO means well armed and supplied, With directions only of where best to help or defend, NOT orders.
We've shifted from that.

Anything that states the gathering or travel of a group of individuals is in itself illegal and meant as a means of crontrol. I have to aspirations of overthrowing a government.
Do I detest those who run our country, you bet..

But I'll overthrow them the democratic way and vote their asses out of office.

I wish NOT to bring violence to anyone's doorstep.. But should they knock at mine with ill intent I'll answer it with force. Our government is proving to be what our forefathers ran from.. It's getting very bad. New laws and legislation will be passed to further disarm, silence and detain those who would otherwise not let government overreach stand when our current means of democratic action are ignored.

It should be the honor of helping and defense that calls a patriot to action, not a paycheck or command.

I for one am more than happy to link up with any serious folks in that Forest Grove or Hillsboro area. I'm free Sunday's and usually most weekdays after 6-630.

My intentions are anything but nefarious.
I am a young man who is very family oriented, quite sane, hard working and a local co-business owner.
(So I pay more than my fair share in extortion.. I mean taxes)

Generally the depiction of a current day militia man looks like Grizzly Adams wearing a tinfoil hat or a very heavyset tacticool operator.. The media and other biased low information organizations and movements would have you think we are all nuts and a threat to our communities.

With current marching orders of all our armed services and law-enforcement do you really want somebody who is dependent on a paycheck to come to your aid when it comes to a constitutional or patriotic matter? Odds are none of them will help you in your time of need.. a militia man and his network help each other just as any other close knit community does.

All of this was written via the talk to text function so anything that's way way off base is my bad.

 

[natef]

check out NWSpectres.com

They are 100% above reproach in the way they have started up the team and operate it. There are no laws that say you cant operate and train a militia. where it gets sticky is when you have people that want to do illegal activities. you have to be selective. You have to have a set of standards and have people who are operating and training understand and follow those standards. a militia group in what it should be is nothing more than citizens who have agreed to help their fellow citizens in a time of need. the negative conotations that are implied and linked to groups are in my opinion the byproduct of media and big goverment not wanting to lose control of the people. If there are private citizens that will assist in time of need why do we need the big .gov?

 

[Gator Monroe]

Visit the modernmilitiamovement Forum/Board & look at the success of the California Folks ( Ca Militia (Redding Platoon) and its still operating previous incarnation ( California State Militia including "Northern California State Militia, Central California State Militia, Southern California State Militia )

 

[natef]

Riot, PM me I have a question for you.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

check out NWSpectres.com

They are 100% above reproach in the way they have started up the team and operate it. There are no laws that say you cant operate and train a militia. where it gets sticky is when you have people that want to do illegal activities. you have to be selective. You have to have a set of standards and have people who are operating and training understand and follow those standards. a militia group in what it should be is nothing more than citizens who have agreed to help their fellow citizens in a time of need. the negative conotations that are implied and linked to groups are in my opinion the byproduct of media and big goverment not wanting to lose control of the people. If there are private citizens that will assist in time of need why do we need the big .gov?

Sadly some won't pitch in.. But you're right if there wasn't gov aid then folks would rely on themselves and their community to accomplish goals as well as help each other out I think this has been a social retardation over the course of 50 years essentially turning most of America into a socialist lazy zombies.
However if we had to protect and fend for ourselves without government interference you would probably see more innovation and less crime due to people taking care of their own problems.

 

[U201491]

So a few things.... "militia" is on the bad word's list. I might suggest something a little more PC like "Community Organizer Training Association" or "Disaster Relief and Readiness Institute" something along those lines. Fact of the matter is, the word militia brings the mark of cain upon you, and it may turn off some of the good people, and attract some of the lunatics.

Another of the things I learned long ago: Avoid place titles in your group name. This allows things to spread further and wider.

I would also suggest getting a 501C3, this makes any donations tax deductible, it will also force you to be more organized, specifically when it comes to your board, that is you will have a president, a vice president, a treasurer, a secretary and the like. A fundamental thing when it comes to organizing any group is communication. The Tea Party and groups like it suffered image problems because you suddenly had lunatics getting in front of cameras saying "I'm the tea-party leader of the state and alex jones said obama is a space alien who doesn't have a birth certificate". The problem is, there was no organization that could come along and say "no, you just interviewed a nut-job who self-declared herself to that post".

Next, structure your training events around a real charity event. Example:

Today we're going to practice setting up a field expedient kitchen, we're going to do that by taking all this food that was donated to us as a 501C3, and we're going to deliver a hot meal to every homeless and hungry person we can find.

We recruited some doctors, nurse practitioners and others so we're going to have a medical clinic set up so the same people can come in for a checkup.

We will also be giving away care packages with food and toys for kids.

Frankly, at this point, if you carry guns and wear camouflage no one gives two s#1t5, because if you do an event like this every 6 months you're bullet proof. Just make sure you're not stealing from the donations basket.

At the same time, events like the above are what will be needed if a major disaster occurs. This will build more good will than you can shake a stick at. And in a major disaster, this is what you want, you want to be known as "the good guys" so you're not getting shot at by every paranoid local, and you can also use events like the above to recruit higher quality people.

However the real advantage of the 501C3 is you can now write off your ammo expenditures as charity work.

LOL
"Community organizer"
= the Obama militia....
Bad use of words or description for anything...

 

[Brutus57]

I'm thinking death dealers ala the old Frank Frazetta painting would be a little too strong?

Brutus Out

 

[Gator Monroe]

@ Riot , NO . Never knew about the CAM . look in Groups you will find our group ...

 

[erudne]

 

[AMProducts]

I still think avoiding the term "militia" all together is a better way to go. It attracts far too much attention.

I was thinking about this the other day, and generally the term "volunteer" seems to be one of the best to use.

The core principle of forming any kind of group, should be volunteer work. This gives you some of the best opportunities for training, building both functional as well as organizational skills. Shooting skills while perishable, are quite easy to obtain, and don't require anywhere near the kind of skills you need to actually help people (or yourself).

The military spends what 6-18 weeks doing basic recruit training (depending on branch), and then 6 months to a year actually training you for the job you will do. While basic equipment handling is important, it's those other skills that really matter.

 

[Who The F R U]

The Militia is not the Nasty Girls!!

Here is your militia/NG/Army.And what it says about owning ANY Type of weapon.
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The Dick Act of 1902 also known as the Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, of June 28, 1902 invalidates all so-called gun-control laws. It also divides the militia into three distinct and separate entities.

The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army. The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.

The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The President of the United States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.

The National Guard Militia can only be required by the National Government for limited purposes specified in the Constitution (to uphold the laws of the Union; to suppress insurrection and repel invasion). These are the only purposes for which the General Government can call upon the National Guard.

Attorney General Wickersham advised President Taft, "the Organized Militia (the National Guard) can not be employed for offensive warfare outside the limits of the United States."

 

[Who The F R U]

FYI, the organized militia has been deployed outside the US...sooooo

Foreign Deployment the Guard is not Constitutionally allowed, Any Governor that allow's them to be put under authority for such purpose is committing treason,Along with the Commander in Chief.


Enemies foreign and domestic,Includes ALL usurpers of the Constitution.

Ask me how I really feel about it.

 

[Who The F R U]

You said you need permission from the government.-OK??

If you follow illegal laws and Code's that's on you.


GEORGE WASHINGTON:
"Plan No. 2 for the Organization of the Militia"
was communicated to the Senate, on
the 21st of January 1790. This
lengthy Plan was permeated with
the proposition that it is the direct
duty and responsibility of the
people themselves to guard
against tyranny from within
government.
Washington declared that the
purpose of the militia was "to
oppose the introduction of
tyranny."
________________________________
He warned that "the government
would be invaded or overturned,
and trampled upon by the bold
and ambitious" -- meaning people
in our own country who operated
without adherence to vital
principles. The absoluteness of
the right of the people to keep and
bear arms is a basic principle.
Unless the right to arms is
absolute, the people cannot remain
the ultimate power.



Taken from:
http://www.libertygunrights.com/GW1790 Plan Column.pdf

 

[Siglvr]

Good luck with the group. I think the difficult part is keeping out the ones who have no business being there. It would be nice to have the neighborhood organized in advanced for the next earthquake/Columbus Day storm or whatever. Knowing who has a generator and extra freezer space, etc etc etc. But in some ways even that simple thing seems like herding cats to me in some respects. My best to you on the project.

 

[MikeSettles]

The Washington Civil Defense Group (WCDG) is now formed...thank you all for your support, suggestions and input.

The Benton County Militia Facebook page will come down shortly...hopefully the Oath Keepers will talk to us now!

Congratulations, Riot!

Be aware, that Stuart Rhodes doesn't like to support anything that he doesn't control: Don't expect much from the OK organization, though individuals may be very supportive.

 

[Brutus57]

I like the term Volunteers. Subtle. Slap a state or county name in front if preferred.

Brutus Out

 

[Gator Monroe]

Oath Keepers are members of our "Militia Groups" down here & Sheriffs meet with us work with us & use us as/if needed , what wrong with Oathkeepers up in your neck of the Woods (A so called "Free State" ) ???

 

[Gator Monroe]

Current Duty Military can not be in Our Groups (Militias) legally so that is understandable.

 

[AMProducts]

Did you file a 501C3? or are you just going as a whatever group at the moment?

 

[natef]

Riot, I might be able to help you with the legal side of things. We did exhaustive research when we created ours. If you have any questions just ask.