NFA Tracker - Current wait time estimator for NFA submissions

[wired]

Reading through this thread it appears to me that NFA forms were approved at a faster pace pre-Trump. Are we seeing feet dragging by the deep state... or are we actually flooding them with approval requests? I wouldn't be surprised if resistance within the ATF and FBI hasn't caused a slow down.
I do not presently have anything in the system, haven't for a few years, but even eight years ago a non-trust form would only take six months.

Its the Government. They still don't care and never have.

FWIW my fastest form 1 SBR approval was 19 days and that was early in the Obama 2nd term.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

Thank you for posting this for me. Without being too redundant my last SBR was 500+ days (as I lost count) and cancelled the transaction, resubmitted, and the prior SBR was 420 days. I have two more in the pipeline. Another SBR (Feb 18) and a SMG (June 18). I'm beginning to think a year is FAST, 18 months average (for others), and 2 years or more for me. We'll see. I would love to see the FBI who is slow walking these background checks to make a liar out of me.

I'm sorry to hear about your delays. Have you looked into getting a UPIN?

FWIW, my recent stamp approvals have all been right around 6 months from check cashed to approved. Who knows what the real cause is for these delays, and why they seem so random.

 

[RogerJ]

I'm sorry to hear about your delays. Have you looked into getting a UPIN?

FWIW, my recent stamp approvals have all been right around 6 months from check cashed to approved. Who knows what the real cause is for these delays, and why they seem so random.

I applied once and was denied as I couldn't establish that, in their opinion, it was necessary. I'll check again. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Member 34319]

Had the best experience thus far today.

Spoke with an extremely nice lady, totally freaked me out compared to all prior talks with anyone on the hotline. She was very nice, happy and upbeat. Told me that my first one was way overdue, and I should really talk to my examiner about it. Made a funny reference about anthills and workerbees and the FBI that I didn't quite understand, but she giggled after saying it! She gladly checked the other two I have pending and then connected me to Cristina who is the examiner on my first and longest waiting can, though I only got her voicemail. Left a number and email. I've heard other folks talking to her on various websites and forums. Sounds like she gets stuff done. So here's to crossing my fingers she gets back to me.

If you get Stephanie on the phone when you call in. You are in luck she has to be one of the nicest people working the hotline!

 

[Hawaiian]

Sorry, but the FBI has to investigate and determine how much beer you drank in high school or college to determine if you are safe to approve to own a firearm.

 

[wired]

I grabbed a girls boobies once ( OK it was more than once ) . Should I send my stuff in for disposal?

 

[erslll]

I updated my earlier post but no one is going to go back and check on old post to see when people got their stuff.


Thunder Beast Ultra 9 and 22 Take Down

Paper work (Form 4, individual) was in the mail 3/6/18.
Credit card was charged 3/12/18.

Approved 9/25/18

Picked it up from the dealer 10/2/18


197 days from card charged to approved

 

[RogerJ]

Sorry, but the FBI has to investigate and determine how much beer you drank in high school or college to determine if you are safe to approve to own a firearm.

You had better pray to God they never find out you threw and ice cube, or even worse, a coaster in a bar.

 

[User 1234]

Shhh, that will be the next question added to the 4473!

 

[Jcon268]

A Silencer Shop "ATF Compliance Specialist" told me about a week ago that she was seeing shortened times down to anywhere from 4 to 6 months? Now if you don't know, Silencer Shop abbreviates the process of filling out the Form 4 by having you do all of the info collectoin from one of their kiosks. I was able to find a kiosk about an hour from me. They took all the vital information from me and Silencer Shop prepares the rest. I told her I was shocked to hear that from her and was expecting at least 8 to 10 months. She said it's going quicker but to not get my hopes completely up. Made sense.

 

[Lazyfaire]

Sending in the paperwork today. And so it goes.....

 

[TheGameMaster]

#NFAJAIL

All on a Trust:

ATF Charged my card (Paid):

June 6th 2018 (SBR Application Form 1)
July 15th 2018 (Rebel SOS Hunter 30 cal. Form 4)
October 4th 2018 (Rebel DFNDR 45 Form 4)

We'll see what happens.

Rodney

 

[Member 34319]

A Silencer Shop "ATF Compliance Specialist" told me about a week ago that she was seeing shortened times down to anywhere from 4 to 6 months? Now if you don't know, Silencer Shop abbreviates the process of filling out the Form 4 by having you do all of the info collectoin from one of their kiosks. I was able to find a kiosk about an hour from me. They took all the vital information from me and Silencer Shop prepares the rest. I told her I was shocked to hear that from her and was expecting at least 8 to 10 months. She said it's going quicker but to not get my hopes completely up. Made sense.

It appears there are two types of people lately.

Those that get to the FBI check via the NFA branch and get an instant approval via the exact same NICS system used to buy guns. The NFA branch does everything and it is approved and the stamp is sent to the dealer.

Then there are the group of people that get to that exact same point and do not get that instant NICS approval. Their paperwork gets sent to the FBI where a manual background check must be performed. Right now, this is adding an unknown amount of time to the wait. I have yet found someone that has only waited and been approved without intervention via the examiner at the NFA branch or a federal level representative.

From my discussions with at least 8 different people at the NFA branch it is taking about 6 months to get your application assigned to an examiner. From there the examiner takes roughly 2-4 weeks to process your application where one of the two above things takes place.

Not one of those 8 people can shed light on what the FBI is doing to create the backlog. However the NFA branch is dealing with all of the customers wrath it sounds, so they appear to be taking some action as long as you get involved.

 

[Jcon268]

It appears there are two types of people lately.

Those that get to the FBI check via the NFA branch and get an instant approval via the exact same NICS system used to buy guns. The NFA branch does everything and it is approved and the stamp is sent to the dealer.

Then there are the group of people that get to that exact same point and do not get that instant NICS approval. Their paperwork gets sent to the FBI where a manual background check must be performed. Right now, this is adding an unknown amount of time to the wait. I have yet found someone that has only waited and been approved without intervention via the examiner at the NFA branch or a federal level representative.

From my discussions with at least 8 different people at the NFA branch it is taking about 6 months to get your application assigned to an examiner. From there the examiner takes roughly 2-4 weeks to process your application where one of the two above things takes place.

Not one of those 8 people can shed light on what the FBI is doing to create the backlog. However the NFA branch is dealing with all of the customers wrath it sounds, so they appear to be taking some action as long as you get involved.

For what its worth it has never taken more than about 5 minutes to get approval on a firearm purchase for me. Not sure how that would play into an NFA item. I was always under the impression that this was a completely different animal.

 

[wired]

Its the exact same check. Its not an NSA background check. 1 minute on the computer. Theres probably about a 5 minute paperwork check that goes along with it. Too many applications for too few specialists is the issue. The background check part itself isnt any different than a NICS check. Its the waiting in the queue part that takes forever.

 

[Member 34319]

Its the exact same check. Its not an NSA background check. 1 minute on the computer. Theres probably about a 5 minute paperwork check that goes along with it. Too many applications for too few specialists is the issue. The background check part itself isnt any different than a NICS check. Its the waiting in the queue part that takes forever.

Yep. I confirmed that with one of the nicer ladies on the hotline. Exact same background check. If a peep comes up, in other words, anything but an instant pass, your paperwork gets sent to the FBI to have an actual person perform a background check. They sign off on it, then it goes back to the NFA to approve, issue stamp, and mail it.

Currently, something is going on within the FBI that has their portion of the manual background check taking an additional unknown amount of time to perform.

Me thinks, the FBI has gone rogue!

 

[Jcon268]

Yep. I confirmed that with one of the nicer ladies on the hotline. Exact same background check. If a peep comes up, in other words, anything but an instant pass, your paperwork gets sent to the FBI to have an actual person perform a background check. They sign off on it, then it goes back to the NFA to approve, issue stamp, and mail it.

Currently, something is going on within the FBI that has their portion of the manual background check taking an additional unknown amount of time to perform.

Me thinks, the FBI has gone rogue!

Any idea how or why adding a single shot trust might increase the wait time? They're still just doing the background check on me since nobody else is listed as a trustee. I'm still preparing myself for at least 6 months even knowing my firearm approvals have all been instant.

 

[Lazyfaire]

Any idea how or why adding a single shot trust might increase the wait time? They're still just doing the background check on me since nobody else is listed as a trustee. I'm still preparing myself for at least 6 months even knowing my firearm approvals have all been instant.

And to add to that. Since I have purchased 3 times now on the same trust, and nothing has changed, why does it take so long to do it every time. I'm pretty sure they don't bother to read them, do you?

 

[Jcon268]

And to add to that. Since I have purchased 3 times now on the same trust, and nothing has changed, why does it take so long to do it every time. I'm pretty sure they don't bother to read them, do you?

No idea? They have my fingerprints, my photo and are able to do a full BGC on me I don't see why it would make a difference. It's a single item trust so I can only use the trust for the item it was designed for which is what the trust is named after. I'm just getting my feet wet in the NFA world.

 

[wired]

It takes so long because it takes so long to get on their desk. Its a queue thing.