Was shocked to see a few boxes of Winchester white box 9mm ammo at the local Bi-mart! Cost seemed a little high, then I noticed it was 147 gr not 115 like I usually shoot in my Ruger SR9. I passed as I'm a cheapskate until I figure out what 147 vs 115 is going to do for me. Also these were flat nosed. Anybody shot these in their SR9?