Speaking of Drones ....

[BrentN]

Butterfly net. No, battery powered super soaker.

 

[Provincial]

Falcons. Very effective, and fun, too!!!

 

[Provincial]

quads have a flight time of about 10 minutes. the person doesnt have the time to loiter for more than a few minutes. count on it being a neighbor and start asking them which one it is. when you find out who, tell them to stop. if they dont after that, shoot it down.

there have already been cases of people shooting them down and getting successfully sued. if you go out there and take it down, you will be buying a shiny new one for the owner and they are not cheap. now if it were to crash on your property and you find it, it is now yours. considering the person is flying at night, be aware that they have a FPV camera system, which means the quad is not recording video, it's transmitting video to a receiver. if they get footage of you taking it out of the sky it's theft. if you get creative and find a way to take it down without showing anything (including how it happened), then they cant do anything about it. they will know if you shot it down. maybe look up radio jamming signals. just dont do it unless you cant get the person to stop with a simple request.

for the record i dont fly anything over peoples homes, nor do i own anything that could. i do however feel that in general there is nothing wrong with it. of course we have seen in the news there are some people who have found ways to make it wrong. you should also know that they have to fly pretty close to get a good image of you or anything else smaller than a car. even the good cameras that are light enough to put on them have trouble with good resolution. around 50 feet $1500 cameras show you as little more than an ant and the images barely get any better past that.

im all about personal privacy but you will need to consider this when you decide to take a legal risk that could potentially cost you thousands of dollars. if youre on 20 acres, there are only so many people who are close enough to fly to your house. try knocking on doors before knocking things out of the sky. it could save you a lot of money.

This is one of those examples of a legal right, that when abused, results in loss of that right. The public is getting uneasy about drones "snooping" on their homes and yards. The end result will be that drones will be limited in altitude. It may end up that a drone may not fly over private property, without written permission from a property owner, below the altitude that the FAA allows manned aircraft to fly in that area. It may not be allowed to fly above that altitude either, because it might consitute a hazard to airplanes.

Sort of like open carry. It is legal until enough people alarm the public enough to insist that it be banned.

 

[RVTECH]

"i doubt they had malicious intent and likely had no interest in looking at people."

Uh huh, and people go to nude beaches for the great sand and NEVER the visuals, buy Playboy for the articles, and porn and nudity is rare and unheard of on the internet. I wonder if any junior Electronic Engineers have designed signal injectors yet to possibly interrupt the pilot's transmitter. I have actually considered this and could have an idea for an effective, non-firearm based device that might quietly down them.

 

[Kevinkris]

This is one of those examples of a legal right, that when abused, results in loss of that right. The public is getting uneasy about drones "snooping" on their homes and yards. The end result will be that drones will be limited in altitude. It may end up that a drone may not fly over private property, without written permission from a property owner, below the altitude that the FAA allows manned aircraft to fly in that area. It may not be allowed to fly above that altitude either, because it might consitute a hazard to airplanes.

Sort of like open carry. It is legal until enough people alarm the public enough to insist that it be banned.

you may be right but it will not come to legislation until they are capable of capturing much better images at much lower prices. the fact remains that you just cant shoot it down just because you dont want it there. i cant see that many people here feel very strongly about it but its something that is going to cause problems. not just for the individuals but possibly gun owners as a whole. the person will file a complaint with the courts and win, because they will have recorded the entire thing. this is not me siding with the person doing it, this is me saying dont do something that could have a negative effect on all of us by making a big deal out of something before taking to your neighbors about it. its likely the person just didnt put any thought into what they are doing.

now oli700 may be on to something with the skeet shooting, you would just have to time it just right.

 

[Garg]

Kevinkris, you seem to know a bit about this stuff, what do you recommend for a lower/medium cost unit, that is the most bang for the buck?? I see that some are in the 10 minute to 34 minute flight time. What features should I be focusing on?

On the event, that occurred the other night, even though my wife does not believe in UFO's per say, I can tell you she was pretty shook up, and until I explained what I thought it actually was (a drone) she was in fact entertaining the possibility.. and was VERY frightened, dare I say, for her life.

 

[Kevinkris]

ive only been looking them up myself. i dont own one nor do i have much personal experience with them, so i couldnt give much advice on buying one. really though it would depend on what you want it for. if just for fun, go cheap, if you want to get good images, go big and expensive. pretty much all the choices right now. there are forum groups and tons of youtube resources on the subject. its not difficult to build one in modules. they are kind like AR-15s of RC flying. really no limits other than your budget.

 

[albin25]

It would be great to find one capable of picking up and dropping off targets down range...

 

[deadeye]

If you use a shotgun to shoot it down I would say if it does hit, it was below 400'. If you ask the person (if able to contact) not to fly over your property how do you prove you did? What if you can not locate/contact the operator? This is part of the law for publically owned drones but is part of SB71 that failed but partially added to 2710.

State law:

SECTION 15. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, a person who owns
or lawfully occupies real property in this state may bring an action against any person or
public body that operates a drone that is flown at a height of less than 400 feet over the
property if:
(a) The operator of the drone has flown the drone over the property at a height of less
than 400 feet on at least one previous occasion; and
(b) The person notified the owner or operator of the drone that the person did not want
the drone flown over the property at a height of less than 400 feet.
(2) A person may not bring an action under this section if:
(a) The drone is lawfully in the flight path for landing at an airport, airfield or runway;
and
(b) The drone is in the process of taking off or landing.
(3) A prevailing plaintiff may recover treble damages for any injury to the person or the
property by reason of a trespass by a drone as described in this section, and may be awarded
injunctive relief in the action.
(4) A prevailing plaintiff may recover attorney fees under ORS 20.080 if the amount
pleaded in an action under this section is $10,000 or less.
(5) The Attorney General, on behalf of the State of Oregon, may bring an action or claim
for relief alleging nuisance or trespass arising from the operation of a drone in the airspace
over this state. A court shall award reasonable attorney fees to the Attorney General if the
Attorney General prevails in an action under this section.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Time to buy (if it's low enough in altitude) a net gun!
I'm quite sure there is no ordinance against that!

 

[RVTECH]

What if you can not locate/contact the operator?

Burden of locating the owner in NOT my responsibility and it goes into the shop woodstove. If I am out of city limits and one of these is flown into my proximity, or appears to following me then it gets 'splashed'.

 

[lowly monk]

Time to practice your casting skills.

 

[RVTECH]

I am thinking something along the lines of a paintball gun but with the 'balls' filled with a sticky substance (heck maybe Karo syrup to be non-toxic) and when fired on the drone would gum up the rotors bringing it down.

 

[Sstrand]

Fade in the "Twilight Zone" theme . . .

Sheldon

 

[U201491]

well mj i think you are being a bit selective in what you decided to take from what i said. you and i clearly feel the same about looking into windows. you also are going on the assumption that you will not be recorded destroying someone elses property that they are flying through public airspace. unfortunately for you, the courts have ruled that you do not own the air above your home. people that own these things should be respectful of others privacy and if you dont want them flying over your home, they should stop when asked but you will not get away with shooting it down.

also Doc i think that you and i said the same thing as far as resolution. am i wrong?

Just take it down and put it in the burn barrel and then bury the remains. Never existed

 

[U201491]

youre sounding dangerously similar to a liberal. rash decisions based on unfounded emotions without any logical thought. the fact is, they are not going to get an image good enough to give them kicks without getting close enough for you to throw a rock at it. if its that close you may well get away with it being dangerously close to you. otherwise you are just making a bad choice.

Any drone over your head... KILL IT then KILL IT AGAIN... then bury it. LOL

 

[U201491]

you may be right but it will not come to legislation until they are capable of capturing much better images at much lower prices. the fact remains that you just cant shoot it down just because you dont want it there. i cant see that many people here feel very strongly about it but its something that is going to cause problems. not just for the individuals but possibly gun owners as a whole. the person will file a complaint with the courts and win, because they will have recorded the entire thing. this is not me siding with the person doing it, this is me saying dont do something that could have a negative effect on all of us by making a big deal out of something before taking to your neighbors about it. its likely the person just didnt put any thought into what they are doing.

now oli700 may be on to something with the skeet shooting, you would just have to time it just right.

Just Kill it, bury it and done. end of drone and discussion.

 

[Kevinkris]

the video footage they have would say otherwise. industry standard has the recording done at the receiver, not on the quad itself. the more you damage, the more you will have to replace.

 

[Martini_Up]

I think there is some fun that could come of this. First, put away the firearms because they will draw the wrong attention to the problem.

I propose the Civilian Operated Counter-Drone. The COC'D would be armed with stainless steel break-away leaders to jam the rotors of the nuisance drone leaving it COC'D up.

I apologize...it has been one of those days.

Best reply so far!!

Send up your own drone to engage the intruder... like Air Chief Marshal Hugh Dowding sending up the RAF to engage the Luftwaffe!!

Post up the video here for plenty of cheer.

 

[U201491]

Kevinkris, you seem to know a bit about this stuff, what do you recommend for a lower/medium cost unit, that is the most bang for the buck?? I see that some are in the 10 minute to 34 minute flight time. What features should I be focusing on?

On the event, that occurred the other night, even though my wife does not believe in UFO's per say, I can tell you she was pretty shook up, and until I explained what I thought it actually was (a drone) she was in fact entertaining the possibility.. and was VERY frightened, dare I say, for her life.

Back in the 60's we were headed for Mecca by warm springs to go fishing and as we broke into the sagebrush plateau before dropping down to the Deschutes river canyon, (this was around 3 Am), a light came on up above the desert area and lit up about a 5 mile ring with white light so damned bright it blinded us. No sound, just a super light of unknown source and stayed stationary, and stayed on for about 2 to 3 min then it just went black again. Even the Military did not have that kind of light capability. Still spooks us to recall it. Never spoke of it much.