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Spanaway Clerk Charged in Murder

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by 206thsense, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. 206thsense

    206thsense Seattle, WA, USA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Here's a link to the story:

    Apparently, this the same story where an armed robber shot another clerk, a woman (who also returned fire with her own gun). The clerk being charged is the woman's husband.

    Obviously, shoplifting isn't a crime punishable by death. The police don't think these 2 shootings are related, but I wouldn't be surprised if the clerk being charged suffers either from depression either from her injury (she was hospitalized for her injury and still hasn't returned from her work), or anger at the way people in the community are treating the store.

    Not that the shoplifter is any angel. He's got a criminal record, including a recent 2014 incident where he tried to kidnap a 6-year old girl who was walking home by herself.
     
  2. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Well after reading the link and still not knowing much more , I am not sure what to say.
    But , I can say , "If you don't want to get shot , then don't try to rob someone."
    I'm not really sure I can fault the store clerk.
    Andy
     
  3. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to see the tape before passing judgement on the whole situation, wonder if the mayor's office made a call to the police chief,.... and how the heck does somebody who tries to kidnap a 6 YO girl only get 90 days for unlawful imprisonment? if he would have got several years, he'd still be alive.

    Brutus Out
     
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  4. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Personally if it was my kid they tried to kidnap, I'd be happy and waiting once they were released. I'd even offer them a ride.
     
  5. EthanAllen

    EthanAllen Portland Area New Member

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  6. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't sound good for the clerk, the murdered man was found in the doorway. Important to actually shoot while the crime is ongoing, cause one second after that, the crime has ended and the former criminal is now a 'fleeing felon'
     
  7. therealhitman

    therealhitman USA Well-Known Member

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    I just heard an interview and report that stated that there were two perps. The now deceased one had hands in the cash register drawer while the accomplice attempted to block the clerk/owner. So this was a robbery, not the shoplifting scenario the lib media is pushing. Once attacked, the store owner acted in self defense. Report stated the shopkeeper, while on the ground with the felon's physical malice still persisting, kicked the robber in the face and was then able to fire "up at his attacker". They seem to be downplaying the fact that there were two robbers (not shoplifters) on the premises, so he faced superior numbers, and are going out of their way to ignore that this is the third robbery in a month or that the shopkeepers wife was actually gut shot with a 9mm during one of these previous crimes. When in the hell ARE we allowed to protect our selves or families in this country any more?
     
  8. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    In a Socialist Democracy only Socialist Justice is law. Why are you Social Obstructionists so persistent in your need for Correction?
     
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  9. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Civvies seem to be held to a much higher threshold than a LEO who can keep shooting until the threat is "neutralized." God forbid a citizen defends his life and livelihood against criminals.

    Brutus Out
     
  10. 206thsense

    206thsense Seattle, WA, USA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Exactly, I heard similar reports. Of course, the anti-gun crowd likes to scream, "But they were only stealing! And they were unarmed!"

    Well, two criminals versus one is hardly fair. And there's plenty of times where clerks have been BEATEN to death / near death by "unarmed" criminals. I doubt these guys forcing their way into the cash register was "non-violent".

    Clerks / shopkeepers have a right to defend their lives.
     
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  11. EthanAllen

    EthanAllen Portland Area New Member

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    I agree with Brutus, I'd need to see the security vid before passing final judgement. If the perp was fleeing when shot then the store keeper is toast. However if the perp was fighting to get the clerks pistol then I think the clerk should be able to defend himself as the perp would probably end up shooting the clerk. Also the perp or perps could have been armed with knife and I believe a person's fists are considered deadly weapons as well. I think the whole question is "was the perp attempting to flee when shot?". The vid should prove that out.
     
  12. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Without more info, if the clerk's story is true, then I would side with the clerk.
     
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  13. ChiefStealth

    ChiefStealth Graham, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    I have not seen the evidence in this case. The Pierce Co. Sheriff's Office has. The Pierce Co. Prosecutor has. The store clerk has been charged. That's enough for me to believe that the shooting was not justified. Pierce Co. is not usually knee-jerk, anti-self defence, libtards.
     
  14. nwslopoke

    nwslopoke forest grove Well-Known Member

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    One one hand I get tired of hearing about the Liberal or Socialist or Dems, blah. Stop passing the buck. We get the government / society we deserve because we built it. This clerk should get let go for defending himself from an attack. There is a track record of people coming in and shooting people at that very address. Any DA that keeps him in jail needs to go. They are the true public hazard.
     
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