"Sovereign Citizen" lays claim to several homes, locking out vacationing/away owners

[Redcap]

The vest? Yeah...but my whole thing is that you'll be seen as the bad guy when you can't prove you own the home while you're calling the police. Makes me think I should go out and put all my escrow/title paperwork in a safety deposit box!

Dead men tell no tales. You should keep all your paperwork somewhere secure anyway.

 

[gaijinsamurai]

If "Sovereign Citizen" ever tries that crap at my house, he'll end up in the same place as Jimmy Hoffa, wherever that is.

 

[Martini_Up]

I'd squat on his head.

Yup. Beef Stew all the way

 

[PuddleMonkey]

Says this guy's done this 11 other times...HOW is he still alive?

He's part of a sacred and special species protected by the US Government... he's black.

 

[Burt Gummer]

If "Sovereign Citizen" ever tries that crap at my house, he'll end up in the same place as Jimmy Hoffa, wherever that is.

He's in a cement barrel off the coast of Ilwaco Washington.

 

[Burt Gummer]

I knew this thread would get people riled up, as it should.

When I hear people say they will bug-out and leave their homes behind they may face this type of thing upon/if they get to return.

I am sure 'abandoned' homes will immediately get encroached upon, especially ones in large cities. The homeless and desperate in the cities have plenty of commercial places to make their homes with less resistance first though.

The point to this Quick Deed/Sovereign Con-Man is that the law is not helping the victims to get the creep out - and this is PRE-SHTF times! Could you imagine what help someone would get post-SHTF? Like any rational person knows, before or after, the only person you can really count on is yourself.

I am more than sure many here would find ways to rectify the situation, then go eat dinner.

This guy here tried the exact same scam but perpetrated it on the US Government (HUD held properties), so of course, he is in deep crap.

http://www.wmctv.com/story/14233885/the-investigators-dirty-deeds

 

[U201491]

Isn't there a song "Backhoes were made for this"

 

[AMProducts]

I have to be honest, I'm not really sure what chaps my hide worse... trial lawyers or sovereign citizens.

Yea, I've done a lot of bubblegum pranks when I was younger, but in the end I realized that for as much of a pain I was being, it was still in the end a joke. I didn't drink the koolaide and start thinking I could go around moving into people's houses just because they weren't home. I seriously wonder what the dysfunction is with these people.

 

[coctailer]

The vest? Yeah...but my whole thing is that you'll be seen as the bad guy when you can't prove you own the home while you're calling the police. Makes me think I should go out and put all my escrow/title paperwork in a safety deposit box!

I would pull out my drivers license.

 

[Martini_Up]

wait until he leaves then go change the locks and claim he abandoned his new home to the old owners.

 

[jbett98]

Just one block from my house, a bank had foreclosed on a house and sold it to the highest bidder on the steps of the county courthouse.
A guy bought it and immediately started a major remodel project.
He had a 30 yd dumpster brought in, and before he had a chance to fill it up, a lawyer showed up and claimed that another bank owned the property (there was two liens on the house) and they were claiming ownership.
All work ceased on the house as the lawyers went toe to toe on it.
In less then two days, some guys showed up in a truck, filled up the dumpster with a load of crap and then a bunch of homeless vagrants moved in and started living in it.
The cops showed up and arrested all thirteen.

 

[Burt Gummer]

When interest rates go back to 'normal' and the Fed has to stop feeding the large banks and Wall St, when people's variable rate mortgages go from 3% to 13%, and their $1500 mortgages go to $4500, and they are unemployed, there will be plenty of empty homes for people to lay claim to .....

The bankers who will be taking back everyone's real estate won't have enough goons or police to protect their 'reclaimed' property. After all, they created the mortgage/money/debt out of thin air and now get millions of free homes in exchange for the strife of the former homeowners. All the materials and labor it took to build those homes, the land, sweat and tears become property of the banks.

(In fact, no one really owns their home, mortgage or not, that is why you are listed on the deed as a tenant, but that is a long, separate subject)

The bankers, using the corrupt fractional reserve banking scam, will do nothing 'real' in order to eventually seize trillions of dollars in real properties.

Given two scenarios - the scumbag bankers take everything real as their own, or some bum, I'll cheer for the bum.

We all have a lot more in common with the bum than we do with the too big to fails.

While the robbers are collecting people's real estate, your tax dollars will once again be bail out all their casino-like gambling. In the next life, I want to be a trillionaire co-owner of the private cartel of bankers, aka the Federal Reserve.

Do nothing real, make trillions. Sounds great.

We all get worked up when we see someone who looks like us blatantly ripping us off, moving into our homes, laying claim to things that are not theirs, stealing from us - right in our faces defiantly. But when a bank/corp does it, somehow that is different.

They have some perceived authority to do what they do, so we allow it. They are, in fact, robbers just the same. Just robbers backed by a corrupt legal system that supports corporate greed and crushes the individual.

In the 1880s, people were a lot smarter and informed than they are now. Homeowners and farmers would drag the bankers out for public hangings off light posts. Of course, that bit of history you won't find in a government/banker-approved history book in your public school. Today the TV programming boob tube tells you Bank of America is your friend - 'let's build a life together holding hands.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWl7Mb49vSk

 

[jbett98]

All lot of folks are only a couple of paychecks away from living on the street.
Be weird, pay cash and think twice before you put that delivered pizza on a high interest credit card.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Burt, there was a guy long ago who said "The love of money is the root of all evil".. and by that he meant that when you find those who love money more than what is right, you have found pure evil, the very root of it

 

[DeanfromOregon]

Burt, there was a guy long ago who said "The love of money is the root of all evil".. and by that he meant that when you find those who love money more than what is right, you have found pure evil, the very root of it

And they can justify anything with the three words "It's just business".

 

[Riot]

I would pull out my drivers license.

For all the police know you could have rented the place or were involved in some sort of domestic dispute with the current resident. Police can't take your word that you own the house. Your driver's license address doesn't prove ownership of the property, it's just a good mailing address to reach you.

The more I think about this, the more if makes me wonder if there is a specific target group for his thefts- meaning that he ensures there's no "NRA" stickers or big burly men going to bash through their own door and shove him by the collar on the street at gun-point.

 

[Redcap]

For all the police know you could have rented the place or were involved in some sort of domestic dispute with the current resident. Police can't take your word that you own the house. Your driver's license address doesn't prove ownership of the property, it's just a good mailing address to reach you.

The more I think about this, the more if makes me wonder if there is a specific target group for his thefts- meaning that he ensures there's no "NRA" stickers or big burly men going to bash through their own door and shove him by the collar on the street at gun-point.

That is highly likely.

 

[revjen45]

Check out the movie Pacific Heights (1990) for a plot line that rhymes.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

For all the police know you could have rented the place or were involved in some sort of domestic dispute with the current resident. Police can't take your word that you own the house. Your driver's license address doesn't prove ownership of the property, it's just a good mailing address to reach you.

The more I think about this, the more if makes me wonder if there is a specific target group for his thefts- meaning that he ensures there's no "NRA" stickers or big burly men going to bash through their own door and shove him by the collar on the street at gun-point.

You can bet this is what I meant about the parrot/Jesus joke.. for those who haven't heard it, here goes

Late one night, a burglar broke into a house that he thought was empty. He tiptoed through the living room but suddenly he froze in his tracks when he heard a loud voice say: "Jesus is watching you!"

Silence returned to the house, so the burglar crept forward again. "Jesus is watching you," the voice boomed again.

The burglar stopped dead again. He was frightened. Frantically,he looked all around. In a dark corner, he spotted a bird cage and in the cage was a parrot.

He asked the parrot, "Was that you who said Jesus is watching me?"

"Yes", said the parrot.

The burglar breathed a sigh of relief, then asked the parrot, "What's your name?"

"Moses," said the bird.

"That's a dumb name for a parrot", sneered the burglar. "What idiot named you Moses?"

Parrot: "The same guy who named the Rottweiler Jesus."

 

[coctailer]

For all the police know you could have rented the place or were involved in some sort of domestic dispute with the current resident. Police can't take your word that you own the house. Your driver's license address doesn't prove ownership of the property, it's just a good mailing address to reach you.

The more I think about this, the more if makes me wonder if there is a specific target group for his thefts- meaning that he ensures there's no "NRA" stickers or big burly men going to bash through their own door and shove him by the collar on the street at gun-point.

I would then kick in the back door and clear the house myself.

If nothing else works, you can just call the highest power in the world to help you. The Bank.

Tell them someone took your house, so you will no longer be paying the mortgage.

If the bank can kick YOU out of your own home, surely they would have an easy time with vagrants.

The banks run the whole country, so the courts don't need to even be recognized.