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"Sovereign Citizen" lays claim to several homes, locking out vacationing/away owners

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Burt Gummer, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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  2. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    He is a squatter. Nothing new. People who want what others have, without having to do any of the heavy lifting themselves. People who feel they are owed something special. This guy needs to get permanent housing somewhere with bars on the windows.
     
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  3. jrprich

    jrprich PNW Well-Known Member

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    He would quickly learn that his "sovereignty" had no standing in my home.
     
  4. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    He should go do this in Detroit, no one would fight him for abandoned properties there.
     
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  5. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    This reminds me somehow of the parrot/Jesus joke
     
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  6. waglockfan

    waglockfan Puget Sound Well-Known Member

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    Double-tap with 180 grain Gold Dots. Move back into your house. Case closed.
     
  7. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    I don't believe the story.

    If I returned from vacation and someone was in my house, the cops would be busting in the door and taking down a burglar.
     
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  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I'd squat on his head.
     
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  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    That "sovereign citizen's" throat would look like a highway of ivory with all the teeth he would be swallowing.
     
  10. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Cold Day in Hell !!! What kind of sheep would put up with that crap ?

    That SOB had Better be bullet proof.:thumbup:

    Jack...:cool:
     
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  11. JRuby

    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I would burn my house to the ground before I let some one come in and take it over. There might even be a victim from that fire that accidentally occurred. I hope it never came to this but the perpetrator is putting himself at risk by doing this. Some may not be as understanding as I am.

    JRuby
     
  12. SavageGerbil

    SavageGerbil Salem, OR Active Member

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    Says this guy's done this 11 other times...HOW is he still alive?
     
  13. sailorfej

    sailorfej Scappoose Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    If "sovereign citizen's" believe the laws don't apply to them, does that mean that Heinlein's quote regarding anarchists could apply to them as well?

     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    People need to take the door off their hinges and "be in fear of their life" just long enough to put a stop to that kind of bullcrap !

    Permanently !
     
  15. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    While I stand behind the sovereign man idea..
    I think that a fellow mans (not government) property is his sacred place, his castle and doesnt apply. Natural law/ sovereign citizen ideology should respect that.

    This example paints a bad image for those fighting for a better natural law understanding and acceptance. Like the fishing guy thread, in that aspect he was totally right.. This one.. Not so much.
     
  16. rur862

    rur862 Seattle Active Member

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    That's funny, esp. considering Heinlein was an anarcho-capitalist himself.
     
  17. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Because he gets other people to scout it for him...probably guys with a "hey, want a magazine subscription?!" story to knock on your door. When nobody answers they try to peak in and check the overall security integrity of the home- gain entry then change the locks.

    I would suggest to any home owners to just do the same- wait until the guy is gone...break down your own door and have at it.

    Guy returns he better be wearing a vest...
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    A good self defense rifle would negate that, pronto
     
  19. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of a joke.
    To celebrate Columbus day go to your neighbors house kick in the door and confess that you discovered it and it's now yours.

    I'm sorry, but if anyone is in my home when My family and I return. I'm calling 911 and telling them there's a body in my house. And no he's not breathing, I made sure of that.
     
  20. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    The vest? Yeah...but my whole thing is that you'll be seen as the bad guy when you can't prove you own the home while you're calling the police. Makes me think I should go out and put all my escrow/title paperwork in a safety deposit box!