Southern Poverty Law Center indoctrinates Oregon cops!

[Gunner3456]

It's the way the left deals with the truth The emotion overwelms them. They say women depend on emotion and men depend on logic in general.....

Why is it the left is telling the police to focus on right wing extreemist? Because you need to get law enforcement looking the other way while you do your criminal act.

jj

The thing that the lefties don't seem to get is that Hitler, Nazis etc. were all extreme leftists.

One more time:

If you draw a straight horizontal line on a piece of paper, you can write "left" at the extreme left end, and "right" on the extreme right. If you want, you can write "moderate" in the middle. Under Moderate please also write "lost and floundering soul."

On the far left you find those who want the most government control. Those are commies, Nazis, Stalinists, fascists, Marxists, socialists, progressives etc.

On the right you find those who want little or even NO government. Those are anarchists at the extreme.

Our founders were far more to the right, wanting very limited government.

Now the ignorant and emotion driven lefties are calling their own far left loonies such as Nazi's "dangerous right wingers."

They are idiots who can't see the snake called big government which is about to devour them.

 

[Just Jim]

Little you can do to change the path of lemmings. Just let em go off the cliff and die. When an educated argument doesn't persuade a person then their comprehension is so low that it's a waste of time. World is full of people that can't listen, government will kill them off with wars before long.

jj

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

The facts of the matter are that the majority of domestic terrorists come from far right leaning groups and backgrounds. That is not a bias, it is just a fact. Not all though, I consider eco-terrorism almost as bad as cross burnings and such. In fact often more people suffer actual damage from eco-terrorism and the vast majority of those guys come from far left leaning organizations and backgrounds.

Still, it does get hard to think of them equally when comparing shooting abortion doctors to setting SUV's on fire in dealership lots.

 

[bugeye]

How can you tell others how to spot something while your head is up.... no, while your head is in the sand

Useing the word typical is just profiling the actions of the left. Discribing the action they take and it's outcome is just knowledge for those who can comprehend it. Comprehension doesn't seem to be a left wing ability, it's obviouse you are left wing.

The Nazis did every crime they commited under their own law, legaly. Useing those in law enforcement to do it. Socialist agendas have to have law enforcement that will co-operate. After you have spent time in jail for not buying health insurance you still won't figure it out but the people who watch you can have an example.

jj

Honest, your degree of intimate familarity with the NAZI mindset was never in question for a second.

The Nazi's were absolutely sure of their BS, just like you!

 

[Just Jim]

Honest, your degree of intimate familarity with the NAZI mindset was never in question for a second.

The Nazi's were absolutely sure of their BS, just like you!

The Nazi socialist party was organized by the progressive left. They learned their terror from the progressived left in the USA. They killed millions of people so in an effort to recognize a real threat I do know something of history, enough to make your eyes bugout

Core beliefs make a man sure of himself, if you are not sure you might look to what you believe in.

jj

 

[Just Jim]

The facts of the matter are that the majority of domestic terrorists come from far right leaning groups and backgrounds. That is not a bias, it is just a fact. Not all though, I consider eco-terrorism almost as bad as cross burnings and such. In fact often more people suffer actual damage from eco-terrorism and the vast majority of those guys come from far left leaning organizations and backgrounds.

Still, it does get hard to think of them equally when comparing shooting abortion doctors to setting SUV's on fire in dealership lots.

It would be helpful if you put in a description of who is left and who is right. If you are putting the Muslim terrorist in the right catagory then your arguement has credit. Muslims are the biggest source of terrorism in the world.

jj

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

It would be helpful if you put in a description of who is left and who is right. If you are putting the Muslim terrorist in the right catagory then your arguement has credit. Muslims are the biggest source of terrorism in the world.

jj

First you will have to rid yourself of the faulty notion that Muslim terrorists are even a significant part of domestic terrorism.

 

[Just Jim]

First you will have to rid yourself of the faulty notion that Muslim terrorists are even a significant part of domestic terrorism.

Yep Hassan wasn't an American was he. The worst terrorist attack on American soil since 911. This isn't going to go anywhere, you don't know what you are talking about. Call in the support staff or something and get some talking points going.

Geez, I will admit it when I make a mistake. I did think you were a little more on the ball than what you are showing. My mistake.

jj

 

[Gunner3456]

Muslims are far leftists. Period.

The test is do they want maximum or minimum government? Muslim countries are often socialist. The big test is that they demand that you follow their religion upon peril of death. You would be imprisoned for taking a Bible into Saudi Arabia, a country which many consider 'Moderate."

Most Muslim countries are dictatorships - maximum government again. People have very little personal freedom.

Most Muslim countries would come far closer to resembling a communist country both politically and economically if it weren't for the Muslim/Atheist difference.

 

[Gunner3456]

First you will have to rid yourself of the faulty notion that Muslim terrorists are even a significant part of domestic terrorism.

Three thousand (and thirteen) dead on US soil in the past 8 years.

Oops, one of the 13 Fort Worth victims was a pregnant woman. Make that three thousand and fourteen.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Yep Hassan wasn't an American was he. The worst terrorist attack on American soil since 911. This isn't going to go anywhere, you don't know what you are talking about. Call in the support staff or something and get some talking points going.

Geez, I will admit it when I make a mistake. I did think you were a little more on the ball than what you are showing. My mistake.

jj

And how many cases of shootings have there been in this country in the past decade? How many of them fit this scenario? Understand percentages and statistics?

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Three thousand (and thirteen) dead on US soil in the past 8 years.

Oops, one of the 13 Fort Worth victims was a pregnant woman. Make that three thousand and fourteen.

I do hope you are not referring to the 9/11 bombers as "domestic terrorists." If so it does not make much sense that we went to war with another country based on the actions of our own citizens.

 

[56kninja]

Three thousand (and thirteen) dead on US soil in the past 8 years.

Oops, one of the 13 Fort Worth victims was a pregnant woman. Make that three thousand and fourteen.

9/11 was international terrorism. Not domestic.

Do you know what domestic means?

 

[Gunner3456]

I do hope you are not referring to the 9/11 bombers as "domestic terrorists." If so it does not make much since that we went to war with another country based on the actions of our own citizens.

No problem, Penquin. I consider domestic something committed on our soil. I won't argue the difference with you. Even Wikipedia folks can't define the word or the differences in types of terrorism. It's an interesting read watching them stumble around it though.

I can't imagine anyone arguing that Islamic terrorism is a big worldwide problem though. Our FBI/CIA claim to have foiled 9 such major attempts on our soil since 9/11.

 

[bugeye]

The thing that the lefties don't seem to get is that Hitler, Nazis etc. were all extreme leftists.

One more time:

If you draw a straight horizontal line on a piece of paper, you can write "left" at the extreme left end, and "right" on the extreme right. If you want, you can write "moderate" in the middle. Under Moderate please also write "lost and floundering soul."

On the far left you find those who want the most government control. Those are commies, Nazis, Stalinists, fascists, Marxists, socialists, progressives etc.

On the right you find those who want little or even NO government. Those are anarchists at the extreme.

Our founders were far more to the right, wanting very limited government.

Now the ignorant and emotion driven lefties are calling their own far left loonies such as Nazi's "dangerous right wingers."

They are idiots who can't see the snake called big government which is about to devour them.

How much self serving ignorance does it take to exclude fascism from the right side?

from Wikipedia"
Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a corporatist economic system,[5] and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum.[dubious – discuss][6][7][8][9][10] Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.[11]

Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state.[12] Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.[13] Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept.[14]
"

Nazi's are not exactly fascists, as they were fundamentally racists, but they are much closer to fascists than to socialists. the private industry connection between their gov and industry is classic fascism, and they are placed firmly on the right, and not the left by most.

In addition our founders did the constitution in 1787, we can't even comprehend their world view, and under no circumstances could they ever have dreamed of ours. The US isn't going to become the loose associations of city states it once was, and a strong centralized goverment is essential in this day and age, simply because we are all bound together by so much comonality. Remaking ourselves in a luddite conception of an idealized 18th century utopia is so far fetched as to be laughable.

Jefferson, Adams, Burr, and Hamilton fought over federalism, and in the latter case it became a lethal issue.

The left examines the flow of politics and power by watching the money, the right ignores the influence of the money and simply blames the left. That inability to observe the most powerful force in our political spectrum is a sort of self inflicted blindness, and makes their observations pathetic.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

No problem, Penquin. I consider domestic something committed on our soil. I won't argue the difference with you. Even Wikipedia folks can't define the word or the differences in types of terrorism. It's an interesting read watching them stumble around it though.

I can't imagine anyone arguing that Islamic terrorism is a big worldwide problem though. Our FBI/CIA claim to have foiled 9 such major attempts on our soil since 9/11.

Would you consider an attack on Florida by Cuba a "civil war?"

Religion fueled terrorism is the worst problem the world faces right now. The vast majority of it centered in middle eastern religions. Domestically religious based terroism is a huge problem too...it is just centered in a different religion.

 

[Just Jim]

And how many cases of shootings have there been in this country in the past decade? How many of them fit this scenario? Understand percentages and statistics?

Let me tell you again that you are out of your ability to argue on this. You ask so it's obviouse you have no statistics to back up said arguement.

I will give you some statistic about people being killed in America that are pulished by Peter King of New York. He states that 25 Americans are killed every day by illegals, thats over 9 thousand a year. Your desription of terrorism is like itemizing every one of these 9,000+ deaths then telling me illegals didn't do it.

Sharpen up your wits if your going top play chess

jj

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Let me tell you again that you are out of your ability to argue on this. You ask so it's obviouse you have no statistics to back up said arguement.

I will give you some statistic about people being killed in America that are pulished by Peter King of New York. He states that 25 Americans are killed every day by illegals, thats over 9 thousand a year. Your desription of terrorism is like itemizing every one of these 9,000+ deaths then telling me illegals didn't do it.

Sharpen up your wits if your going top play chess

jj

He states, he does not prove. See the difference. For someone that likes to play the "I am smart" game, you sure miss all the details and do not seem capable of questioning any "facts" you find that seem to fit your personal philosophy. WND says it is 12 people daily...of course they admit there are no actual statistics kept on the topic.

 

[Gunner3456]

9/11 was international terrorism. Not domestic.

Do you know what domestic means?

Yep.

Link to www.FBI.gov

For the purpose of this report, the FBI uses the following definitions of terrorism:

*Domestic terrorism refers to activities that involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any state; appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. [18 U.S.C. § 2331(5)]

*International terrorism involves violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or any state. These acts appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping and occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum. [18 U.S.C. § 2331(1)]

 

[Just Jim]

Nazis came into power under the socialist banner and on the platform of healthcare for all. They soon found out they couldn't pay for healthcare so the used American progressive ideas and started killing off the old and anyone who wasn't perfect.

jj