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SOT dealers, AOW Question

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by Iansstud, Feb 16, 2010.

  1. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    The way I understand it, If ANYONE builds an AOW there is a $200 stamp to "create" it. After this happens its only $5 to transfer.


    Someone told me if I gave my firearm to a FFL7/SOT they could just ADD it to the registry and then transfer the gun back to me for $5 and this would avoid the $200 stamp...

    Who is right?


    Thanks
     
  2. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    I'm not an SOT, but are you referring to making a shotgun pistol? If so, it has to start out life as a pistol grip only, or bare receiver in order to be "turned into" a AOW.

    But to answer your question, yes and no.

    An SOT can create an AOW from a qualifying weapon, but they can't do it with just any firearm. As far as a "smoothbore pistol", yes they can build one, no they can't take your regular shotgun and make a AOW out of it.
     
  3. cyclesarge

    cyclesarge Eugene OR, DUH! We're ALL in the NORTHWEST Well-Known Member

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    Also not an SOT. I thought about having an SOT "build" an AOW for me as well, the problem is they're not going to do it for free (they have to pay a fee to HAVE the SOT) unless you have a GOOD friend who has an SOT, which I suspect you don't if you are asking US instead of him. Plus there is the time involved in the second approval.
     
  4. wired

    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    Former SOT here. Yes an SOT can "build" an AOW for you on a virgin or pistol receiver and the ATF will charge you a $5 transfer fee. Depends on what you need done though as the SOT will not do it for free unless its your brother.
     
  5. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    Any Washington SOT's want to be my brother???
     
  6. TOVO

    TOVO SW WA. Active Member

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    Contact Coctailer. He is a Class 3 manufactor. He can turn it into an AOW and will charge you a $50 transfer fee and $5 tax stamp. Just send my form 4 in yesterday with his help. Now we wait.
     
  7. waltermitty

    waltermitty seattle Active Member

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    he's either a Class 3 vendor, or a Class 2 manufacturer. can't be what you
    posted above.
     
  8. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    depends, do you have a super hot sister?
     
  9. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    Well, I do have a beautiful sister, She is single, but she is way too young for anyone that can own a pistol!!!
     
  10. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    Ow well,

    Let me know when she turns 18, and there could be some machine gun time in it for you.
     
  11. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Type 07/ Class II manufacturer.

    I have tons of AOWs. What'cha looking for?
     
  12. JC Weaponry

    JC Weaponry Newberg, OR Member

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    I just bought my second AOW from Coctailer (no lie) so trust me when I say that he can hook you up with the AOW fever.
     
  13. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    Coctailer, This is what Im looking for:

    dsc00565ij7.jpg


    It has to be an AOW for use in Washington...

    I may have to buy a SXS 12ga and 'demil' it to ATF specs, document it, reweld/machine/whateverittakes build a receiver with NO stock attached, file a form 1, wait 3 months, get my stamp, and cut it down, enjoy!
     
  14. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    You may be able to find a double barrel shotty that was imported without the stock attached to the receiver.
    Kind of a long-shot, but I have heard that a few gun companies did this for ease of shipping.
     
  15. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    These are what I have in stock:

    DSC00500.jpg
     
  16. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    NICE!!!!

    I'm Interested in a serbu, but I dont have the $$$. I really want a SxS AOW but like I said I may have to build it myself... the hardway.

    I have 4 gun projects going on right now, and the wife would not be a happy camper if I came home with a serbu (even in 3-4 months!!)

    Ive got a few AK kits Im building, working on a Form 1 design/Paperwork/Getting materials, Rebuilding a Astra model 357 4" revolver, fixing up my FAL. Just to name the major ones...

    I think I could get away with getting a SxS and rebuilding the receiver into a "virgin" and adding a pistol grip Without breaking the bank... You can find used SxS's for $150-300 on GunBroker all the time!
     
  17. JC Weaponry

    JC Weaponry Newberg, OR Member

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    I just purchased one from Coctailer!

    Thanks!!
     
  18. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    I sent over your Form 3 yesterday.:thumbup:
     
  19. waltermitty

    waltermitty seattle Active Member

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    would that be an 870 AOW or SBS? I'm in WA so my interest is piqued if the
    possibility exists for me to acquire any AOW variants. if so, pm me your price.
    thanks in advance. raymond-
     
  20. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    It is a factory Remington AOW. They are $600