Sometimes I am a little slow...

[RX-79G]

Your still comparing the world covid deaths to just the US deaths. We should be comparing country to country.

Note: not that I dont think it may be higher in the US. The covid pandemic was/is tragic and not downplaying that but the average death rate is 1% and currently only 17% of the US population is properly vaccinated.

Just type "Covid rates by country". I don't know which countries you want to look at. Botswana?


Anyone who had Covid and survived is "vaccinated", which means subsequent infections are less likely and lighter. Just like people who are really vaccinated.

I worked two essential jobs in public all the way through Covid. Never got it. I was one of the earliest vaccinations.

 

[Koda]

The vilified did have, or gain, access to weapons.

But in October, the ŻOB managed to establish contact with the AK. They obtained a small number of weapons, mostly pistols and explosives, from AK contacts."

doesnt sound like they had "real" access to weapons sounds like they risked their lives just to get enough to even think about resistance. What I do read here is the importance of the freedom to keep and bear arms. Theres also a subject of weapon familiarity before needed them but I digress...

 

[Koda]

Anyone who had Covid and survived is "vaccinated", which means subsequent infections are less likely and lighter. Just like people who are really vaccinated.

all that means is they didnt need the vaccine.

 

[Longwalkhome]

except there are no citations for any of the claims of lies listed. Im genuinely interested in learning what the lies are but I need evidence.

The very first claim I read was that 4 different diseases are being listed as Covid. Ive never even heard of this until now. No evidence provided. Im genuinely interested in that so I can prove the CDC lied as I have family/friend who insist the CDC is the gold standard of science.

What lies are cited in the article, with evidence?

Plenty of places to look things up if you are allowed to. I rarely post up a site here because it may not be approved by the management. If you want truth then get on rumble and look for Died Suddenly where they do actual autopsies of folks dead from the jab.

There are constant threads on news sites of sudden deaths or unexplained deaths.

Johnson & Johnson’s COVID vaccine no longer available in US

freerepublic.com

'Brits are dying in their tens of thousands - and we don't really have any idea why'

freerepublic.com

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

all that means is they didnt need the vaccine.

But isn't that kind of like playing Russian Roulette and saying the ones that survive shouldn't have been worried, because you know . . . they didn't die?

 

[Koda]

Plenty of places to look things up if you are allowed to.

The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. I read your link and there was no proof.
Not digging on ya, I just cant use a source that doesn't provide evidence.

 

[Longwalkhome]

The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. I read your link and there was no proof.
Not digging on ya, I just cant use a source that doesn't provide evidence.

That's fine with me, it's better to not trust people you don't know. Probably better if you spend the time looking things up for yourself so you can be sure of your opinion.

Have a truly great evening.

 

[MTpockets]

doesnt sound like they had "real" access to weapons sounds like they risked their lives just to get enough to even think about resistance. What I do read here is the importance of the freedom to keep and bear arms. Theres also a subject of weapon familiarity before needed them but I digress...

Truthfully, I was just trying to provide info to the OP...and also include the mention of "firearms"...In the hopes that the thread doesn't get closed.

For those interested in topic that has derailed the original discussion...I have provided a link. It should keep those interested, reading more and derailing less.

Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency - Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency

This nonprofit, made up of public health professionals, medical professionals, scientists, and journalists exists solely to obtain and disseminate the data

phmpt.org

 

[RX-79G]

all that means is they didnt need the vaccine.

The not dead ones didn't need the vaccine.

The not dead driver didn't need the seatbelt.

The not dead cop didn't need the vest.

 

[Koda]

The not dead ones didn't need the vaccine.

I like how weve reduced our replies down to one sentence replies...

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

anyone else remember when this forum was supposed to be about firearms?

 

[Koda]

anyone else remember when this forum was supposed to be about firearms?

I remember about 10 years ago when political discussion got where the site owner had to clean up, some members left over it.
and that was about when the biggest thing we had to worry about was measure 941 that gave us all background checks.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

I remember about 10 years ago when political discussion got where the site owner had to clean up, some members left over it.
and that was about when the biggest thing we had to worry about was measure 941 that gave us all background checks.

i thought my time here was done post 941 because 95% of what i did here was private sales in parking lots…not saying i do or dont still do that, it just does or doesnt get done on here still

 

[gmerkt]

I follow Rand Paul on YouTube a lot, I trust him and believe what he says for the most part. His questions of Fauci and the gain of function research paid for by the US in the Wuhan weapons lab told the truth as to where covid was created.

I respect Rand Paul (and his father Ron) for their positions on government fiscal responsibility. Yes, Rand Paul is a doctor. But he's an ophthalmologist, not a specialist in immunology or infectious disease.

Re. the origin of Covid 19, from the news I've read it doesn't appear there is any doubt about where it originated. In spite of Chinese government denials and resistance to factual investigation. My guess is that it might've been a lab accident. But the Chinese are so into the "face" thing, they would never admit to a mistake because of the phobia about being seen as doing something that resulted in error. Or if it originated in the Wuhan live animal market, they wouldn't admit to this because it makes them look bad. For them, appearances count big.

Oh, and to make it about guns: Those labs in Wuhan are guarded by security forces armed with Chinese firearms.

 

[Jay Walk]

You said 1 million dead, again.

Where did you get that figure?

 

[nwslopoke]

During Covid where you live and what hospital politics where a huge factor in your recovery. When my wife got it in Oregon, the hospital would not administer "alternative" medicines but they would refer you to a clinic that did. After that time period they stopped. She was up and about pretty quickly. My coworker's elderly relative was on her deathbed, family peeping thru the window sick. That was small town eastern Washington. They shipped her to Idaho across the border and she was up in a few days. Unfortunately I lost a good friend. The hospital wouldn't go off the approved list of limited drugs and let him die.

This continues to be a dark period in America. What's a life worth? We allow thousands of elderly to die because of horrible leadership. Others died because of horrible policies. The medical professionals turn out to be lackies who just follow orders, just as government lapdogs will be when they are just following orders.

 

[RX-79G]

You said 1 million dead, again.

Where did you get that figure?

Are you asking me? I responded on page 7: WHO

 

[Longwalkhome]

I respect Rand Paul (and his father Ron) for their positions on government fiscal responsibility. Yes, Rand Paul is a doctor. But he's an ophthalmologist, not a specialist in immunology or infectious disease.

Re. the origin of Covid 19, from the news I've read it doesn't appear there is any doubt about where it originated. In spite of Chinese government denials and resistance to factual investigation. My guess is that it might've been a lab accident. But the Chinese are so into the "face" thing, they would never admit to a mistake because of the phobia about being seen as doing something that resulted in error. Or if it originated in the Wuhan live animal market, they wouldn't admit to this because it makes them look bad. For them, appearances count big.

Oh, and to make it about guns: Those labs in Wuhan are guarded by security forces armed with Chinese firearms.

Op posted a question about useing guns to fight back against government extermination of its citizens. He used the nazi murder of the jews as an example. Nazi used guns to force people into slavery and death camps and the jews had no guns to fight back. The jews had no choice but to submit to their own murder because the nazi tyrants were the only ones with guns.

It's my opinion the thread drifted to modern day tyranny as an example of where we are today. The nazi still are trying to take our guns and force us into slavery. History has many instances of unarmed people slaughtered by their governments.

Even in our ghettos today you see the poor and unarmed murdered on a daily basis. The op question about is it better to quietly submit to your murder of use your gun to fight back, if you don't have a gun then there isn't a choice.

 

[OneArgus]

Creates the same Paradox gun owners have.
1. Get your message out and get well know.
2. If you are rising up, then someone with more power, then needs to be overcome.
3. The greater your resistance. The more you are vilified.
4 The more you are vilified, the greater power your foe now has, all by your doing.

Firearms owner, preach to the choir, so did the Jews.
If we look at Slavery in the USA, gives you hard facts that it too to conquer a foe.
A "existing" force greater then your foe almost always wins.
Today gun owners are like the civil war south, they have a fight for what they see as rights.
Yet do not have the power the opposing foe does, and that is influence.
Just Argus's Opinion.

 

[ColeInOregon]

Are you asking me? I responded on page 7: WHO

WHO'S on first.