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v0lcom13sn0w

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yeah i get it but i hate having to pay the state for permission to conceal carry...whats everyone gonna do when the law says we have to pay for a permit to own a gun or we have to turn them all in? just comply with that too?

there should be no such thing as a conceal carry license. you should be able to carry if you are able to lawfully own a gun.
 
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I have read that open carry is forbidden. Also, banning an armed arm...
Edit , just a gun with ammunition in it is illegal. I would think arms would entail it being more than a poorly shaped bludgeon. Yes, you are paying for a constitutional right here.
 
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Maybe someone can propose something to get rid of it? Because its an infringement on ones rights.
Sixteen states have Constitutional carry and another four have a limited form of said. None of those states, as far as I can see, have had any issue transitioning to said. So, indeed, someone propose it here. :s0155:
 
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It's not a right if you have to get a permit, take a course and get government approval. It's a privilege. Let's face it, driving is more of a right these days than the right to keep and bear arms. Take a trip to Tennessee or North Carolina and see how much horrible car accidents we have every day. And, people are so terrified of *GASP* Assault Weapons. I feel much safer around a bunch of people open carrying ARs than I do just driving on the freeway in Nashville or Charlotte where I say my prayers every time I get behind the wheel.

You can practically run over a kid while texting on your phone and being drunk and still not lose your driver's license. Get caught carrying a gun while sipping a glass of wine (at least in Tennessee) and you will not only lose your gun rights for life, but serve time in a state prison. You get a DUI you lose your right to carry a gun for over a decade. Get a DUI and you can still drive a car.. Oh, but the right to keep and bear arms is a right! .. The 2nd Amendment is not truly a right in the modern context of our unconstitutional laws. What it is, is an obstacle that the fascists are trying to overcome.
 
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How is driving a privilege? That is one of the most defeatist, luddite, Statist things I've heard today. I know it's a typical legal trope and the Black Robe Mafia has ruled on it however....Its BS. Abortion is a right but driving is a privilege says the Statist.
 

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How is driving a privilege? That is one of the most defeatist, luddite, Statist things I've heard today. I know it's a typical legal trope and the Black Robe Mafia has ruled on it however....Its BS. Abortion is a right but driving is a privilege says the Statist.
Right to travel freely exists. You dont need to drive to travel :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You can drive on your own property without a license

You can walk

You can ride a bicycle

You can pay to ride a bus, a train, a cab, and a plane :rolleyes:

None of these requires a license

In fact, buying a vehicle does not require a license... but putting it on the public roads requires getting it registered and so forth.

Boating on the other hand... :rolleyes:

If the boat's under 10 feet in Oregon, and is not motorized you don't need to pay for the new Waterway Access permit or a boaters license

If the boat is over 10 feet, but still not motorized, you gotta pay for the permit.

If the boat is motorized,regardless of size; you gotta have a boaters license and pay for the permit, and register the boat.

:rolleyes:
 

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"iF iT pLeAsEs tHe CrOwN." All gun laws, including TAXING and requiring permission to exercise that particular right, are an infringement. The government has no authority to bestow "privileges" like a license to drive. If it's a true right and you're a truly free man, you don't have to ask anyone's permission to execute it at will and to the level of your discretion, E V E R.
 
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CamoDeafie

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"iF iT pLeAsEs tHe CrOwN." All gun laws, including TAXING and requiring permission to exercise that particular right, are an infringement. The government has no authority to bestow "privileges" like a license to drive. If it's a true right and you're a truly free man, you don't have to ask anyone's permission to execute it at will and to the level of your discretion, E V E R.
The government also have no Constitutional authority to bestow "privilieges" such as hunting and fishing licenses, and business licenses and medical licenses and insurance bonds. As well as law licenses :rolleyes:

They also have no Constitutional authority requiring law enforcement officers to be licensed and bonded to contracts for their duties :rolleyes:
 

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The government also have no Constitutional authority to bestow "privilieges" such as hunting and fishing licenses, and business licenses and medical licenses and insurance bonds. As well as law licenses :rolleyes:

They also have no Constitutional authority requiring law enforcement officers to be licensed and bonded to contracts for their duties :rolleyes:
Grammar, spelling and syntax errors aside, these statements are accurate.
 

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